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White House Pushes Back on Climate Change Email Controversy
December 03, 2009 1:13 PM
President Obama’s science adviser, Dr. John Holdren, faced a barrage of questions yesterday from Republican Members of Congress about a series of hacked emails at the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit that climate change skeptics have seized upon as evidence that the whole concept of climate change is a hoax.
…The emails, stolen from the university, includes passages from academics referring to research "tricks," and seeming to support suppressing data and squelching voices of dissent. The director of the Climate Research Unit stepped down on Tuesday, pending the results of an investigation by the university, which said today it was seeking "to determine whether there is any evidence of the manipulation or suppression of data which is at odds with acceptable scientific practice."
"Their contents are shocking," said Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisc., the ranking Republican on the committee, referring to the emails.
Quoting a commentator who said "the stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering," Sensenbrenner characterized the UEA data set as "the basis for virtually all peer-reviewed literature" and asserted that "the documents show systematic suppression of dissenting opinion among scientists in the climate change community, intimidation of journal editors and a journal who would deign to publish articles questioning the so called consensus, manipulation of data and models, possible criminal activity to evade legitimate requests for data and the underlying computer codes filed under Freedom of Information Acts, both in the U.S. and in the United Kingdom."
Holdren disputed Sensenbrenner’s assertions and downplayed the controversy.
(GDeW) Did we expect anything else? Obama could give GWB lessons in how to evade responsibility.
"In this particular case, the data set in question and the way it was interpreted and presented by these particular scientists constitute a very small part of the immense body of data and analysis on which our understanding of the issue of climate change rests," Holdren said.
(GDeW) Gotta love a man who can tell a blatant lie with a straight face, then again, maybe you have to detest him when he pretends to be talking about “science.”
"It is important to understand that these kinds of controversies and even accusations of bias and improper manipulation are not all that uncommon in science, in all branches of science.
(GDeW) See what I mean? No remorse, no shame, he just tells the lie, and make the fools believe it. Impressive, even if nauseating. I am surprised he did not make up “examples” while he was at it!
The strength of science is that these kinds of controversies get sorted out over time as to who is wrong, who is right, and how much it matters by the process of peer review and continued critical scrutiny by the knowledgeable community of scientists."
The comments echoed those made on November 25 by Carol Browner, the assistant to the President for energy and climate, when asked about the email controversy.
"There has been for a very long time a very small group of people who continue to say this isn’t a real problem, that we don’t need to do anything," Browner said. "On the other hand, we have 2,500 of the world’s foremost scientists who are in absolute agreement that this is a real problem and that we need to do something and we need to do something as soon as possible. What am I going to do, side with the couple of naysayers out there, or the 2,500 scientists? I’m sticking with the 2,500 scientists. I mean, these people have been studying this issue for a very, very long time, and agree that the problem is real."
(GDeW) Too bad those 2,500 “scientists” in agreement are NOT all scientists and NOT all in agreement!
When the report this hooker-for-greens is obliquely referring to came out a number of SCIENTISTS who worked on it spoke up about their dissent and asked to have their names removed from the final publication. Of course the pols refused and keep each and every name in their arsenal against doubt.
Many of the people who “contributed” to the report were not even scientists, they were pols and hacks and fund raisers…and any scientists who DO dissent have a hard time getting funding if they speak out.
Yet it is not hard to find coherent rebuttals to the human caused global warming fantasy
On Monday, asked about the controversy, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs referring to Browner’s remarks, asserted that "climate change is happening. I don’t think that’s anything that is, quite frankly, among most people, in dispute anymore."
(GDeW) Yes Virginia, Climate Change Happens, ALL THE TIME!
Up, then down, hardly ever does it stay the same for very long. The colossal arrogance of today’s generation, coupled with their stunning historical ignorance, seems to make them feel that EVERYTHING must be their fault while being unable to UNDERSTAND the arguments that have them panicked!!
The most stunning stupidity is the assertion that a few degrees warmer temps will somehow be a human disaster! during the Medieval Warm Period temps were significantly higher than today yet this was not a time of disaster and famine, it was a time of BOUNTY and improved conditions for most of humanity due to a mellow climate.
Please people, remember that NOT ONE of the computer models used by the greenies (and we now know that the data they used in the first place was “cooked”) has EVER made a prediction that has been borne out by the actual weather!!! The Earth’s climate is far too complex for ANY prediction of outcome to be made for ANY small change in ANY direction!
From 130,000 to 116,000 years ago, there was a warming spell so hot that the tree line extended far above the Arctic Circle, and the climate where London now stands was tropical; hippos frolicked in the Thames.
Man was barely even Homo Sapiens Sapiens (certainly we produced no CO2 emissions to speak of), yet “Global Warming” had made the Sahara a grass covered sea of green. And then, in EIGHTY YEARS or so, glaciers had covered ALL OF ENGLAND, and soon after that a MILE of ice had buried the Sceptered Isle for most of the last one hundred thousand years. Only in the last ten thousand have we returned to non-glaciation interval. In fact, REAL historical geologists consider that the current ice age is CURRENT, as in IT HASN’T ACTUALY ENDED!!! We just got waves of warmer temps we cal inter-glacials between longer episodes of glaciation!
Holdren argued Wednesday that the more important issue is that in 2006 the National Academy of Sciences — which "undertook a thorough review of all of the relevant data sets and all of the methods of analysis, not just the data set used by these particular authors or the methods used by these particular authors" – "concluded that the preponderance of available evidence points to the conclusion that the last 50 years have been the warmest half century in at least the last 1,000 years and probably much longer."
(GDeW) Which, even if true, which I doubt, the MWP was WARMER than it has been the last 50 years! And no catastrophic flooding, no horrible hurricanes, and no drought or famine! In fact it was one of the best times to be human in our 100,000 year history!
Long after the "dust settles" on the University of East Anglia email controversy there will be "a very strong scientific consensus on the key characteristics of the problem," Holdren said. "Those characteristics are that "global climate is changing in highly unusual ways," ways that "match what theory and models tell us would be expected to result from the very changes in the atmosphere that we know have been caused by human activities, above all burning fossil fuels and tropical deforestation," and that "significant impacts on human well being from these changes in climate are already being experienced."
(GDeW) That has to be the biggest lie so far! The “scientists” involved keep changing their predictions to fit the realities! There is NOT A BLOODY THING about the last 50 years’ weather that is at all unusual, if you have a perspective longer than a few generations, that is! As far as I can tell teh group that most resembles the Climate Change crowd in tactics and ethics are the Creationists!!!
"Anyone who thinks that those e mails are insignificant, that they don’t damage the credibility of the entire movement, is naïve," said Rep. John Shadegg, R-Ariz. "These e mails repeatedly have shown that the scientists involved and who authored them, the scientists who are behind global warming or the argument that global warming is caused by manmade factors, the e mails demonstrate that they are afraid to reveal the facts, that they have been unwilling to have their theories tested, that they have been unwilling to provide their data, and they are unwilling to have their theories openly challenged."
At times the hearing grew quite heated. Rep. Jay Inslee, D-Wash., took issue with Sensenbrenner using the term "scientific fascism."
…Sensenbrenner explained what he meant by the term – suggestions that a publication "ought to be boycotted because they weren’t doing the politically correct thing" and "intimidation in the scientific community by people who wish to be contrary to what the conventional wisdom is."
Said the Wisconsin Republican: We "are being asked as a Congress to make major changes in American society in energy use and on how much the out of pocket cost is to every person in this country as a result of this debate. And we in Congress better get it right. The scientists may be able to change their story and do more research on it, but, once Congress passes a law, it will be as difficult to repeal the consequences of that law as putting milk back into the cow."
(GDeW) Very well put! The weathermen can’t even tell us what next month will be like! And we are supposed to commit TRILLIONS on a scheme that has no real hard science behind it?
Inslee called it "troublesome" that scientists — "who put the men on the moon, the people who discovered water on the moon, the people who are doing great research figuring out how the oceans are become acidic, some of whom are my constituents — it is disturbing to me that people would come to this chamber and call them fascists."
(GDeW) That is like claiming that people should not criticize Lysenko’s lazy, inaccurate theories since other REAL scientists had actually made useful contributions with their ACCURATE work!
He said there was "a little emotion in my voice because I have seen in my neighborhood what this phenomenon is doing," referring to the higher rate of acidification in the oceans, especially "the shallow waters off our Pacific coast….Is there anybody in this room who has information to suggest that the oceans are not becoming more acidic? Has anybody got information like that? Anybody? Has anybody got an explanation why the oceans are becoming more acidic, other than the fact that there is massive amounts of carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere? Has anybody got an explanation for that?"
(GDeW) Bah, blah, blah… Once again, for the historically challenged in the audience:
In the past there have been times with MUCH higher temps, AND times with MUCH higher atmospheric CO2 than what we find today, yet I find no articles about how coral reefs stopped forming during these times. Just some allusions to how SOME historical mass extinctions MIGHT be the result of temp changes.
In fact the bleachings and deaths these people claim today may well be the result of more observers and better records. The “increase” began in the 70’s, just as the environmentalist movement and ecological science both were taking off. Also, the possible causes are numerous, yet these people want us to pin it ALL on good old evil human caused global warming (oh yeah, climate change, since it seems we are NOT warming after all, at least not for the last 50 years!).
NOAA administrator Lubchenco focused on consensus data: "Global average surface temperature has risen by 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit since 1900 and is projected to rise another 2 to 11.5 degrees by 2100. The current atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is estimated at about 385 parts per million, which is higher than the highest point in the last 800,000 years. Temperatures in the next couple of decades will be primarily determined by past emissions of greenhouse gases, but increases thereafter will be primarily determined by future emissions."
(GDeW) More yada, yada, yada nonsense from someone who should know better!
The three principal phytoplankton clades that the GW nuts are afraid will vanish in terror of Al Gore evolved into their present forms SIXTY FIVE MILLION YEARS AGO! Hmm, 65,000,000 divided by 800,000…
Yep Virginia, for 0.0123076923076923 of their existence these critters have lived in lower oceanic acidity than what we find today! Clearly they are so hard-wired to one particular ph that it is humanities responsibility to do ANYTHING needed to protect this dead-end species from evolution!
OR maybe they are NOT as fragile as all that, given that for over 80% of their existence they thrived in a HIGHER acidity! And that they EVOLVED into their present form in HIGHER acidity!
And speaking of Mr. Al, the protection racketeer, He lies through his teeth! according to REAL scientists with REAL records that they do not show zoomed out so far that you can’t see the truth as Mr. Gore did in his movie; temp rises first, THEN 400 to 1000 years later the CO2 rises!
"I understand that those people who have been refusing to accept science for years are enjoying their moment talking about language from some e mails that were taken out of context," Inslee said. "If you could take those e mails and chop them up and put them in a C 130 and sprinkle them over the Arctic and stop the Arctic from melting, that would be a good thing, but that won’t happen. If you could take those e mails and chop them up into fairy dust and sprinkle them over the Greenland ice cap and stop the accelerated melting going on there, that would be a good thing, but that won’t happen. And if you could take those e mails and chop them up and sprinkle them over the oceans and stop the incredible ocean acidification that is so damaging, that would be a wonderful thing, but that won’t happen."
(GDeW) Or, you might try actually reading them, and being as appalled as anyone else with half a brain who can see how far from science this political religion called Global Warming has strayed. But since the very political priests of this new heresy pay your salary I guess that is asking too much.