(GDeW) Does this guy’s brain ever hurt from all the double-think? Has he ever looked in the mirror and thought “If it weren’t for Islam, I could be mistaken for a horrifically callous and evil excuse for a Human Being? What is interesting is how the interviewer is fairly unashamedly pro-Western for a Saudi. Saudi Media DOES have some strong moderates, but they have to let the lunatics carrying Korans have the last and authoritative word. This doesn’t stop them from asking some uncomfortable questions that make the Imams expose their self-serving hypocrisy though.
Arabic media is a little like the Japanese, what seems like a mild agreement to us, is read as sarcastic opposition by the locals. Thank bog for MemriTV! (bolding added)
“Following are excerpts from an interview with Saudi cleric Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif, which aired on Al-Daleel TV on February 19, 2010.
Interviewer: One is astonished to hear, in a social gathering, an old man bragging about marrying a young girl, and boasting that his bride was given to him as a gift from her father, or that a business deal was struck at the expense of this poor girl, by parents who did not care about her childhood innocence or her humanity, or by parents whose poverty forced them to pay the old man with their daughter.
In today, show, I will ask my guest, Dr. Al-Sharif, whether it is the right of the parents, or of society, to allow a girl to be married off at the age of 10 or 12 years. the law in the civilized world considers these marriages to be a crime. How are they viewed by our religious law?”
(GDeW) For Saudi society that is practically a scathing diatribe against the practice; it is fairly obvious from the video that he is in now way putting verbal “quotes” around the words civilized world! But, though he is the interviewer, the good(?) doctor gets to have the last word.
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: This issue has been blown entirely out of proportion, and there is confusion about its basics. We say that such a girl is a "minor," but dictionaries do not define a girl as a minor, if she has reached puberty. ‘Aisha said that when a girl reaches the age of nine, she becomes a woman. …”
(GDeW) Here is revealed the fundamental difference between the Western view, like the interviewer, and the Islamic view. To the Dr. if a book that is to be followed says 1+2=3 then it is 3, but if it say that 1+2=6 it is still to be followed. Time and again we can see Imams and Islamic scholars telling us that it is NOT EVEN OUR RIGHT TO ASK “WHY” in reference to ANY of their sanctioned laws.
This mindset infect a small but influential minority of Jews and Christians as well. Fortunately those religions do not have scriptural hooks lining every surface upon which to hang a legalistic lack of personal ethics, compassion, or empathy.
“Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: What is the percentage of these marriages in Saudi Arabia? In Saudi Arabia, we have 20 million people. Half of them are women – that’s 10 million. According to the most extreme statistics I have read, 3,000 girls under the age of 13 were married off to men more than 20 years their senior. That’s 3,000 out of 10 million, more or less.”
(GDeW) I wonder, does he really think people are that stupid? Later he talks about a treaty that puts the age limit at 18. He also limits his numbers to those who marry men more than twenty years older! This statistical dishonesty limits his pool of “victims” considerably! All marriages of girls from 13 – 17 years old to men up to 42 – 47 years in age are excluded! Let us see a graph of Saudi society of marriage ages, male and female and see how the slopes run.
“Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: What does this figure mean?”
(GDeW) I would say that it means you are dishonest with statistics, as well as being an empty sack when it comes to empathy.
“Interviewer: But don’t you think that 3,000 is…
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: Allow me… Does 3,000 out of 10 million constitute a social phenomenon?
Interviewer: But even these 3,000 girls have rights.
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: Undoubtedly.
Interviewer: We should consider the humane aspect, even if there were only three girls.
(GDeW) That was a clear score for the interviewer. This is a CLERGYMAN, who just got smacked in the face by a TV layman, on what would be an essential point to just about any other religious leader. The Dr. wanted to only care about the girls if they constituted a “social Phenomenon”, whatever that means. He just wanted them to go away. They are not real, individual humans to him. They are simply inconvenient obstacles to his living in a dream world.
“Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: In many newspapers, it has been suggested that the minimum age for marriage should be 18. Why 18? They said that Saudi Arabia is committed to something called the Human Rights Treaty, which set the minimum age for marriage at 18 years. This is, of course, unacceptable.
Interviewer: Why not?”
(GDeW) A very good question, I would like to hear the answer… too bad the good Dr. does not give one. However, he does try a flurry of irrelevant counter-punches as a distraction.
“Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: I read that the official spokesman for the US government said that the US is worried about the marriage of girls in Saudi Arabia. This is really funny. The rate of child prostitution in American and Western societies is enormous. This is a well-known fact.
Second, all the children whose death was caused by the US in Palestine and Iraq… These people are not ashamed to say that they are worried about Saudi Arabia, even though they caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children in Palestine and in Iraq. This is really distorted logic.”
(GDeW) I could do an entire SERIES on the lies and factual distortions and omissions in those two paragraphs!
“Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: Third, when Islamic law refers to a certain issue – we don’t need human rights.”
(GDeW) There it is, right on the table. If you have Islam you are covered, no need for silly things like human rights. And no need to mention the rampant rape and child abuse in the Kingdom. That would only confuse the poor, silly people.
Saudi Arabian Islamic algorithm:
#1 The sanctioned authority is the final authority.
#2 if any moral questions arise, see #1.
#3 If you disagree with the answer, YOU are wrong, see #1
#3 Repeat until you stop having your own morals or ethics, and run to your Imam at the drop of a conundrum.
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif: Let’s assume that there is a 13-year-old girl… Let’s make it 14. her father sees that she is physically developed, has reached puberty, and has a sense of understanding – nothing in Islamic law prevents him from marrying her off.”
Let’s assume that the government listens to these people, God forbid, and sets the minimum age for marriage at 18. There are many good girls who, at the age of 13 or 14, are developed and ready for marriage. There are hundreds of thousands of girls like that in our society. They will not be married off. They will have to wait 3 or 4 years to become 18. This constitutes an injustice to such a large sector of society – compared to the several dozens or hundreds of girls who would be wronged, because of the greed of their fathers.”
(GDeW) Well, that hurt. I don’t know about the rest of you but I am SO ashamed of my willingness to deprive those HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of 7th and 8th grade (assuming they are allowed to go to school) girls their HUMAN RIGHT to be the servant and sex toy of a man up to 43 years of age! How can I even THINK of all that accumulative joy eliminated merely because I was concerned about the dozens or hundreds beaten, raped and abused by BAD fathers and husbands. Shame on us all!
(Sarcasm module disengaging – overload: must shut down)
We are committed to international treaties as long as they do not violate Islamic law. If they violate Islamic law, we should throw them out, because they are not worth the ink they were written with. With all due respect, the international treaties are worthless.”
(GDeW) I can just picture the leadership of S.A. seeing him say this and and thinking: “Of course it is true, but do you have to come out and TELL people? Someone might be listening!” Someone like MemriTV maybe?
Who is responsible for the human rights and international treaties? The atheists, the Christians, and the fornicators, with all due respect.”
(GDeW) And on that note, notice is given that ALL decent folks do what the Imams say, refusing to listen to those evil outsiders; and all is well in the sandy Kingdom for another night. Yet in dozens, and hundreds, and more probably hundreds of thousands of beds, flow the silent tears of Saudi children when the shadow of their “husband” crosses their face.