Theocratic Reformation from Judaism to Islam – Christians 4: Jews 5: Muslims: 0

jesusgunnedOk, we can all agree that Pat Robertson was a dork of stellar magnitude, and the Phelps Family are supernovae in that particular area called theocracy.

 That said, before we submerge a crucifix in urine let’s give the Abrahamic tree a second look, and examine the fruit it has borne.

The Jews never had a drive to spread over the Earth. Their scriptures taught them that certain lands were given them by God; so they took them, enough said, this was 6,000 years ago after all. But after that they lost any territorial ambitions. But, the Persians and Romans proceeded to push them this way and that; being rather fanatical, they pushed back. After the destruction of the 2nd Temple and the Judean Diaspora the centuries have seen Judaism become a religion withdrawn into itself. Having lost the arrogance of the Temple but retained the Love of God and intellectual tradition they became a creative yeast in their host cultures.

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The Jews never expected to take over the world; at most they expected, and some maybe still expect that the world will join them. Not by the sword, but by the Love of God. One of the best aspects of the Jewish religion is its focus on the Love of God and a Love for God in each moment of a person’s life.

But along came Jayzus!

Things started out ok, Yesuah merely echoed and extended the teachings and philosophy of Hillel. It expanded organically and gently; converting mostly people otherwise considered “unworthy” of membership in one of the more respectable religions, then into the idle upper-class (often by way of religiously adventurous wives discontent with being the ornament on a rich man’s arm.

 But then Paul and Constantine came to deal the Judaic Chrestians, and then, later, the mild original “Greek”, a double death-blow of politicization.

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After several centuries of defending themselves from the fanatically imperialistic Islam Christianity began to model all sorts of the worst of the Islamic “innovations” in religion and took on an expansionist, aggressive attitude of its own.

But, it is inherent in a religion mostly based on the teachings of Jesus that every now and then people would remember what their religion was supposed to be about. Christianity may have done much more good during those periods than it did evil during its more cognitively-dissonant times.

Since the Enlightenment the swings of the pendulum between arrogant fanaticism on one hand, and humble servitude to God on the other seem to have gotten gentler. Christianity also seem centered more and more toward the liberal side of the equation; i.e. Fred Phelps, not Qaradawi.

Christianity may one day even manage to have more people who follow it for the right reasons than fools-in-lambs-clothing who use religion in unhealthy ways, or merely for social reasons.

Christianity has a core in its teachings and scripture that is there for all to see; one of Love. It today can be, and always has been, a potentially dangerous religion (I.e. Fred Phelps, Torquemada) but is not inherently so by the structure and teachings of its chief scriptures.

I do think that, despite the quantum jump that The Enlightenment enabled in society’s evolution, Christianity has shown a definite tendency to speed humanity’s growth due to the focus of many of the faithful being on Jesus’ ministry rather than the “died for your sins” part.

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Now, about Islam.

tolerantislamIslam teaches much about peace and love. There are verses equal to any in the other Abrahamic writings. I will not comment here about those who feel it was the work of someone passingly familiar with both religions. But Pat Robertson did get one thing right; Islamic theology IS inherently aggressive.

The Islamic scriptures consist of three parts:

The Qur’an, the Sunnah –basically a biography of Mohammed’s life, and the ahadith – stories about Mohammed from people who knew him. If you read it all it is clear that there can only be peace when everyone has submitted to Allah.

Even the most fanatical religion tends to mellow over the years; people are basically families, people who want to live and work and laugh and have the space to find God before they die. Even individuals attracted to a “religious” life for evil reasons can be shocked to learn that Love of God and Love BY God can blossom in their hearts; that is the core of any religion.signe

Islam unfortunately is working uphill in the all so human battle against hubris while trying to find truth. But, by having such an aggressive set scriptures; by having so much to draw from that feeds the darker hungers of man, Islam will, I believe spend more time orbiting around radical aggression before submitting finally to that peace and love that is God, is Allah.

Islam is inherently dedicated by its self-declared scriptural doctrine to naturally one day  rule the world by TAKING control of it and forcing Dar al-Harb(‘House of War’) (Non-Muslim controlled regions) into Dar al-Islam(‘House of Islam); then all people will be free, in the Islamic view, to “choose” the “right” religion.

Sadly, it is not hard to justify all sorts of atrocities on infidels (non-Muslims) with the Qur’an; by contrast there are very few Samaritans or Philistines around for Jews or Christians to use their scripture as an excuse to start a pogrom against.

In Islam it does not matter that reformist Imams do not support something. In fact it is literally forbidden in Islam to use your ‘conscience’ as a guide in a religious dilemma; the only proper way to get an answer is to ask the proper authority, and then submit to the “truth.”

In Christianity, the violent books and verses are all somewhat shielded by being in the OT and considered to be superseded by the Love of Jesus when any conflict occurs. Islam does not have a NT to mellow its hard edges, though it does recognize the concept of abrogation (what a prophet says later is ‘rock’ to the ‘scissors’ of any earlier pronouncements or doctrines).

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This makes “insulting” Islam dangerous at times in the modern world of high tech, and horrific weapons that you can make in your garage.

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butcherinnameofislamI mostly find it sad that the bulk of Muslims are not more vocal about denouncing their radical Brethren in both the private and the public arena. It is every person in the world’s duty to restrain the fundies of all aggressive religions until they grow up. Until a religion’s devout – highest clergy to clueless souls just born in it – recognize to their core’s that it is ok to DIE because of your religion but, that it is NEVER anything but evil to use religion as an excuse to KILL, that religion should be watched, and kept on a leash in polite company.

Islam has yet to show that it can stay grown up. They are younger though, lets give them time…but, keep the rolled up newspaper ready to smack their noses if they sh*t on the rug. We have too many permanent stains from Christianity and its messes; AND the Islam’s’ earlier messes. Of course Christianity STILL pees on the floor now and then. We just have to be patient and rub their noses PROMPTLY in their messes; but, we don’t have to worry about them eating the neighbor’s cat anymore.

I am not too PC to call a club a club (well, I can’t say spade anymore can I?); religion can be very wonderful but, people need to get over their BS and realize that the basic code of ethics that most religions have can also be formulated by simple common sense and an understanding of psychology and social dynamics. Go read a little about Neuro-Linguistic Programming and such. Real secular morality is what the world needs, not the Fascist pretend kind, only then can religion truly flourish; when we get over all this bickering on who is actually the only ones in touch with the “ONLY source of Morality™”; which they cannot even prove exists.

Faith is the problem; submission to something you do not feel yourself is the problem. Beliefs have reasons, sometimes bad ones but, reasons that can be ‘reasoned with’; faith has no reason therefore the most reasonable argument does no good, your head still rolls on the floor.

Have faith in Jesus of Mohammed; I will Believe in Bugs Bunny!bugslastsupper1

CMSA in the News; Praying With Al Qaida Gimme that Ole Time Religion

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It seems that the MSM has finally caught up with the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association.  I have been writing about them for a couple years now; their biggest problem seems to be with transparency… as in revealing who votes for what candidates and who got how many votes in the election for their executive board… whose members stay the same, year after year… maybe now I will get those 12 articles on the CMSA some coverage!

It seems the MSM has finally noticed that the CMSA associates with some… questionable… Imams and “moderate” Muslim leaders; folks like:

Anwar al-Awlaki, the notorious Al Qaeda cleric believed to be hiding in Yemen and the lone American on the U.S. government’s capture or kill list, who conducted a prayer service on Capitol Hill shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. 

Randall “Ismail” Royer, a former communications associate for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), who confessed in 2004 to receiving jihadist training in Pakistan. He is serving a 20-year prison term.

Anwar Hajjaj, former president of Taibah International Aid Association, which was designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. and U.N. in 2004.

Esam Omeish, the former president of the Muslim American Society, who was forced to resign from the Virginia Commission on Immigration in 2007 after calling for “the jihad way,” among other remarks.

Salam Al-Marayati, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, who was forced to step down from a national terrorism committee post in 1999 for pro-terrorist comments.

Nihad Awad, CAIR executive director, who attended a Hamas meeting in Philadelphia in 1993 that was wiretapped by the FBI.

Johari Abdul Malik, Dar al-Hijrah imam, who made statements in support of convicted and suspected terrorists who attended his mosque.

Tariq Ramadan, a Muslim scholar banned from the U.S. for six years beginning in 2004 for his alleged ties and donations to terror groups. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lifted Ramadan’s ban in January. 

—  Abdulaziz Othman Al-Twaijri, the head of a division of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, considered a foreign agent by the U.S.”

Oh and Hey, Assad (Akhter) Who ran in the board elections this year? How many voted and who got how many votes? Hmmmm?

CMSA – Images of Muslims in America Q and A Analysis

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The question and answer session at Assad Akhter’s CMSA panel on “discussing” the present situation for Muslim Americans as well as the “Park51 controversy” got off to a wonderful start with the moderator Suhail Khan lobbing a straw man gently underhand for Zogby to pretend to answer. 

It seems Suhail can’t understand why, in the ten years since 9/11, the mood of the average American toward Islam and Muslims has changed; fear not Dr. Zogby has the answer:

“there is a general mood afoot in the country, it is part and parcel of the broader social, unraveling I think, that is taking place. umm, we had, we saw it begin last summer, um, I think some of it has to do with the fact that we have elected an African American president and some folks just can’t ingest it. There is No Question I think, that the economic distress, and the social dislocation that has occurred is part of it. Umm, and, I think at the same time that, that 8 or 9 years of, umm, disinformation has taken the toll. But if the social conditions weren’t there, if the unraveling weren’t there, I don’t think we’d see it. Uh, in exactly the same way. It is classic, uh, xenophobic nativism; we’ve seen it in our history before…”

The multiple attacks and attempted attacks in the US by America Muslims had nothing to do with it at all Zog-man? Okaaay, moving on, Salam puts in his two scheckles worth on the subject of why Americans are less trusting of Islam in 2010…

After a sycophantic salute to Dr. Zogby, Salam veers off the question to a specific and divisive attack…

“…think we are at a crossroads in our society, in terms of what, how we define America. Is America an exclusive club? Or are we going to live up to the stand, our values of pluralism.  And when people start questioning the Christianity of our president, I think that is a form of religious nationalism. I think they’re using religion to say even religion now, in America, is part of an exclusive club.”

And here I thought that pretty much all religions except, Unitarianism, were in one way or another exclusive clubs! Or am I misunderstanding Salam; maybe I can declare myself Muslim without changing a single belief and he will say, “Welcome to Islam Brother”; but, somehow I doubt it.

“And so this exploitation of the truth that is used also for political purposes, since this is now an election year coming up to the November elections. And the fact is, Muslim Americas, they are an easy punching bag for this because we… “

I have to stop and tell you to hold on to your lunch, this is the baldest lie you have ever heard on The Hill…

“…don’t have the reach, we don’t have a lobby, we don’t have a PR infrastructure.”

Got that? Maj. Hasan went his merry Jihadist way in the Army because his colleagues were afraid to be labeled by the PC police as racists; but American Muslims have no reach.

The CMSA itself is openly a lobby; Then we have Salam’s own organization MPAC, and a couple dozen other active, influential lobby groups specifically for Muslim Americans, and Muslim Americans of various ethnic extractions and national origins; but American Muslims are a punching bag because they have no lobby!

And the last, biggest lie; American Muslims have no PR infrastructure; Check out Daniel Pipe’s web site for all the refutation of that Big Lie you could ever desire; but do not forget today’s Pravda: American Muslims have no PR Network.

Tell the Big Lie with a sincere look on your face, then repeat it as though it were gospel, over and over and over again until the sheep buy it; this seems to me to be the gospel according to Salam.

“and so, while we are responding to the, to everything, the other side obviously has the microphone. It’s really the other side of extremists.”

Wow, he actually mentioned Islamic extremists, obscurely and in passing but, he mentioned them! He must be an Islamophobe!

Other than Salam telling an obscure but rather bigoted anecdote this ended the “let us lob around a softball, while ignoring the woman, and pretend it is part of the  and A” part of the program.

I will continue with the REAL Q and A, assuming they allow any real questions, in the next post.

CMSA – Moderate Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow or Just Another bunch of “Moderates”?

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Today Virginia I will be taking another look at the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association. This group came to my attention (see the first post in this series) when the director of CAIR dragged out their name while creating clouds of smoke to obscure his own group’s activities.  I decided to take a closer look; what I found was not reassuring to say the least.

Despite an almost, kind of, sort of gesture at communication by one board member (subject to permission from un-named elder “leaders”, apparently never extended) this group has stonewalled all attempts to obtain information due the public.

To date they have had two elections of board members, but can’t seem to agree on when they hold their elections, nor will they reveal who stood for election to each post or who got how many votes!  It should be noted however that the board was re-“elected” in toto last year; assuming the elections are yearly and not following the congressional cycle as I was told at one point.  Either way a new election should be upcoming; hey Assad, can I see the ballot of candidates this time?

I have also looked at the sources, resources and speakers they promote; I found them to be fairly representative of the pseudo-moderate Jihad-Apologist class of Islamist rather than representative of what I call the Muslim-of-the-Real-World.

Then I saw the video of the CMSA get together called Image of Muslims in the U.S on C-Span; the conference was what you would expect, but Assad Akhter, the CMSA president, said some things that did not sound like the usual blanket victimology of the pretend moderates.  Of course he parroted the usual lines about “near Ground Zero” and such, but he also admitted that while a majority of Americans did not want a Mosque at Park51, they did not mind a Mosque in their own neighborhoods; such an admission from a Muslim spokesman is unusual.

but is this proof of anything real? Let us continue to watch the show…

Next up was the selected moderator Suhail Kahn, the single Republican who allows the CMSA to exist as a “bi-partisan organization in Congress…

From the start Khan sets the definitions in his favor (which is why it is so vital for the opposition to seize back the terms) with “Park51 Community Center in Lower Manhattan” (like Pamela Geller on Hannity we must STOP and hammer the point, Park51 IS Ground Zero), “construction of a community center in Lower Manhattan.”

There was a moment of hope when he spoke of confronting things that had started to be talked about, Islam and women, Islam and terrorism and other things that had been out of his ken but no longer “on the fringe, maybe in chat rooms on the internet, [it] has surfaced and bubbled up to the mainstream conversation”!

But, he was speaking of confronting the Islamist’s favorite straw man, “Islamophobia”; and you thought he spoke of confronting the Islamist radicalism that bubbled up first?  Silly Girl, Virginia, silly girl!

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Because you see, in the world according to Khan the fringe of Islamophobes have so bubbled their way into the national perspective that “mainstream politicians are ACCUSING Muslims of SOMEHOW being a fifth column”; somehow, try CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood, Saudi Financed radicalist literature and triumphalist Mosques on the site of Islamist attacks?

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In response Mr. Khan has assembled this panel to define truth as myth, patriot as pervert and to defend the stealth Jihad against all comers; And, We’re Off!

The first speaker is Salam al-Maryati, the president Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC); he is the general Muslims-America apologist.

He hits the right points of the Big Lie right off the bat; “Park51 controversy“, “not at ground zero“, “can’t even see it from there“; that last ignores the fact that the MOSQUE at the top floor of the proposed building WOULD have a wonderful overview of the official Ground Zero site!

Oh, and the project is “a community center that was intended to develop interfaith understanding”; I just realized that this is a totally true statement, the success of this project WOULD communicate to the Western world an understanding of what was expected of them by their ethical, spiritual and physical master, Islam.

After reiterating how the Ground Zero Mosque title was fabricated by un-named sinister forces Salam pulls back and adds another layer of lie to his cake of deceit; he declares the GZM controversy to be causing “protests against Mosques and Muslims around the Country” but also seems to declare these protests unrelated; of special interest to him is “burn the Koran day.”

His religious hypocrisy is now at full throttle, no ranting, sweating fundamentalist preacher on Jackson Square on New Orleans ever exceeded the double-faced, judgmental tribalistic stupidity of Salam’s next diatribe:

“.. a reverend, a religious Christian leader, who will sponsor “Burning the Koran Day”, this is obviously a major issue for us”

it is? we have flag burnings, effigy burnings and protests all the time, rude? yes. Crass? Yes. Obnoxious? Certainly. A Big  Deal? Nope

Summing up:

al-Maryaki believes that only Christian ignorance of how the Quran talks about Abraham and Jesus and Moses and Mary makes people interested in burning Qurans as a political gesture; never mentioning of course that the Muslim view of Abraham and Moses is radically different from the Judeo-Christian mythology and their view of Jesus and Mary just as Heretical from virtually all Christian points of view; this is why Jews and Christians are not allowed to be open in their faith in Muslim lands, if they were TRUE Jews and Christians they would recognize that they were actually born Muslims!

al-Maryaki also believes that Americans have a responsibility to conduct their affairs so as to not produce any
“images” that might be used as “recruiting material” for al Qaeda et al!  I have a question for the spineless (at least the American part of this Muslim-American) “citizen”; just what aspect, image or ideology of Western Civilization, and America in particular, could NOT be used as “recruiting material” by al-Qaeda?

At this point we should note that other than the mentioning of the name al-Qaeda there has been not one word about what Muslims themselves do, are, or believe; everything is about OUR misconceptions, accusations and Islamophobia.

The best, or most disgusting part, is when he declares that Anti-Muslim feelings in America are a mirror of Anti-American feelings in the Muslim world; sounds right doesn’t it Virginia? Did you spot the catch; America is the one in control, we initiate unfounded anti-Muslim tantrums, then the innocent Muslim world helplessly responds with childish, but understandable anti-American feelings. And not only that Virginia! Somehow this is more of an influence on global Muslimhood “undermining our efforts” than any Local-to-the-Muslim-world issues; yep, in Salam’s world Bangladeshi Buddhists are dying because a preacher in Fl wants to burn a Quran!

Money quote #1

“Islamophobia has to be viewed as an American Problem, not just a Muslim problem”

Umm, when did he admit it was in any way a Muslim problem?

He quotes a Pew study that says 70% of Americans either have no opinion on or an unfavorable view of Islam; according to Salam this is because the extremists can tell their “story” much better than the Muslim community can tell their “story”; this despite the faux-moderate Muslims having had almost exclusive control of the mainstream media for ten years; that must be some quality story-telling, why aren’t more Hollywood screenwriter’s Wahabi’s?

In trying to disassociate the Islamist leadership in America from the “radicals” abroad Salam accidently tells some truth:

“the story of the American Muslim has not yet been told”

In part because you, and others like you, will not allow them to stick their head up above the sea of brotherhood affiliated “moderates.

Next is Azizah al-Hibri, an expert on Shariah law and also an “advocate for Muslim Women.”

Azizah starts off talking about how she discovered the buried Islamophobia in American history after coming to America; she even mentions the…

“attempt at regime change in Tripoli”

A rather vague reference to America sending in the Marines to kick some butt when the U.S got tired of hearing them explain that it was their right as Muslims to take ships and ransack them and sell the passengers as slaves.  But to Azizah this was a sign of a “misunderstanding” between the two worlds!

Summed up she managed to very charmingly say almost nothing of substance; isn’t that a job description now in DC?

Next up, the venerable apologist Zogby his own damn self!

Summed up: Snide, condescending and completely unwilling to address the actual issues; You have to love the money quote:

whatever the outcome [of the Cordoba Project due to their ideology] if these guys [the anti-Ground Zero Mosque crowd across the board] win, America won’t be America anymore!”

Oh joy, now we get to see the question and Taqiyya session! Oh Assad, are you really down with all this victimology and disingenuousness?

The Q & A is another 45 minutes, I might get to analyzing it and I might not; go see for yourself and make up your own minds

CAIR’s Hooper on MCSA: Fruedian Slip or Stab in the Back?

(This is a repost of a story from the old Blogspot blog that got lost in translation):

 

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A story I read today by by Jordy Yager in The Hill struck a nerve with me. There was a quote by “honest” Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR {Council on American Islamic Relations} an organization that has been listed as an un-indicted co-conspirator in a terrorist funding case. Excuse me, the organization has not been indicted but numerous of its founding members and leaders have. The leadership of CAIR reminds me of a weird carrousel of replaceable puppets, each fretting and strutting their way across the stage until finally hung with legal ropes of their own manufacture.

At the very end of the story, which was about Congressional suspicion that CAIR has been intentionally placing interns on key Congressional commitees came this quote:

“ “plant[ing] “spies” within key national-security committees in order to shape legislative policy… specifically focused on the House Homeland Security Committee, Intelligence Committee and Judiciary Committee…

“If an organization is connected to or supports terrorists [and] is running influence operations or planting spies in key national security-related offices, I think this needs to be made known,” Hooper replied to this: “God forbid American Muslims take part in the political process and exercise their rights, I suppose they’re going to investigate the Muslim Staffers Association next.”

If these people weren’t so hate-filled, it would be laughable, but unfortunately they have an audience and, given their positions, it’s going to get picked up by the hate blogs.”…”

 Now if I did not spend as much wordage as I do chastising those on my own side who let emotion rule common sense I might think Mr. Ibrahim was talking about me. But I do take a bit of offense at someone who seems to have nothing but venom for any who disagree with him to call anyone “hate-filled”. Especially when HIS advice to any Muslim approached by the FBI for info regarding Radical Islamists is that they should refuse to speak without a lawyer and notify CAIR. Recently they have added a new [rule] advisement; tell the truth. It seems that the FBI is being especially mean to Muslims who lie through their teeth even if they don’t have “hot” info. They charge them with lying to the FBI, go figure! Just because Martha Stewart can go to jail for it doesn’t mean it should be like, a LAW, you know!

Well if you get the impression that Mr. Ibrahim is not a person I would trust to babysit my niece you are on the right track. But even the un-trusted can be reliable. When you judge people by their fruit over time you will start to see patterns. Sometimes those patterns can reveal much more than the subject would like.

This is the case I feel with Mr. Hooper’s flippant and rhetorical question about the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association being the next to be investigated.

Long ago I noticed that the most fanatical of partisans, Left or Right, tend to portray their enemies as doing, with great malice, exactly the things that reality shows the partisan to be doing. This is most blatantly obvious whenever we hear fundamentalist Muslims rave about the horrific, planned and globe-dominating action plans of “The Jews”. Whenever I listen to these rants I look about to find the group they are referring to. Who could it be that is doing these kind of things? Each time I go around the global community and come back…to the very people doing the ranting. If you want to know what is in the mind of Radical Islam listen to the most fanatical Imam raving about Israel. That rant will accurately reflect their own attitude and action plan toward the Jews instead of visa versa.

I decided to take MR. Hooper at face value and see where it led. Join me for the ride, you will find Dramamine in the glove box. Continue reading

The Congressional Muslim Staffers Must Be Nervous

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How does the MSA want women to show solidarity for battered females? Wear something that shows men you are not a whore!

 

It is nice to be loved! I see that this last week or so the CMSA office has been hitting my site again. I guess they must be nervous about their upcoming MSA event.

Relax boys! I don’t have anything good on your latest event yet, maybe one of your more disgruntled followers will give me a lead…Stay Tuned!

Muslim Staffers in Congress Organize Lobbying Group: Stonewall on Election Process

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As I have reported before in Congress there is a group that purports to represent the concerns and needs of ALL Muslims working for Congress, and indeed all Muslims in America and those affected by US policy.

Heretics Crusade has done a series of posts on this group, the public background of it’s executive board and some analysis of the “resources” provided on the CMSA website.

The Congressional Muslim Staffer’s Association website reads in part:

The Congressional Muslim Staffers Association (CMSA) was established in 2006, during the 109th Congress, and is an officially recognized Congressional staff association registered with the Committee on House Administration. Every Congressional term, the CMSA receives sponsorship from a Congressional Member(s) to be registered with the Committee on House Administration. Congressmen Ellison and Carson are the current CMSA sponsors for the 111th Congress…

The CMSA is a valued resource to Congressional Members and staff, conducting programs that increase their awareness about the diverse Muslim American community and presenting the plurality of the community’s social and political perspectives and concerns…

Any Muslim Congressional employee is considered a CMSA member regardless of their level of participation or the degree that they publicly identify themselves as “Muslim”

So, here we have a group that CLAIMS to represent virtually all Muslims and former Muslims who happen to work for Congress, they also claim to represent the views of “mainstream” American Muslims, yet they only invite Islamist friendly speakers and only link to Islamist friendly resources and to conservative Islamic Law sites.

In my previous pieces regarding the CMSA I have shown the bias that seems to permeate almost all the the links and people associated with the group.  Today I want to address a new concern, elections of the CMSA executive board.

Now the CMSA website declares in no uncertain terms that:

The Executive Board is elected on an annual basis, with its term being congruent with the calendar year beginning on January 1st and ending December 31st. Board elections are held in late November/early December. Elections are coordinated by an Ex-Officio Board Member who cannot run for any Executive Board position.

The only problem with that is that the Executive Board changed not a single member from last year, no election was announced on the site and no candidates were provided, nor was there any listing of votes received. 

The only (sporadic, and now long since ended) contact I had with ANY member of the board informed me that elections were ACTUALLY held in sync with Representative’s elections but, the web site still (two months later)proclaims their yearly occurrence. 

The board members are listed, and contactable but, do not seem to have mastered hitting the reply button or returning calls.  One wonders how they manage to function on the staff of a Congressman with such poor communication skills!   Not one email or message that I have sent/left inquiring as to facts or inviting their response to my posts has been answered.

My last message was to Assad Ahkter Himself, Lord High Poobah of the CMSA,  asking him to please correct the miscommunication of his, no doubt sincere, subordinates and please inform me of the dates, participants, and votes received for their last election.  Not even an echo has been heard.

Surely there is someone on the Hill who can pop into Congressman Ellison’s or Congressman Carson’s office and ask them to please inform their protégés that transparency is about the public being able to SEE things, not that the things sought after should be invisible!

Subverting America; recommendations for Islamist Victory

Ever since Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR tipped me to their existence Heretics Crusade has been looking at the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association. Masking itself as a “moderate” voice to Congress for “Any Muslim Congressional employee …regardless of their level of participation or the degree that they publicly identify themselves as “Muslim” a quick look behind the curtain of the CMSA shows a face much less diverse than it seems.

The face that I found under the CMSA’s mask is one that shows kinship to the likes of CAIR, the MSA and the Muslim Brotherhood. From executive board members who are far from non-partisan, to sponsored speakers that advocate for an Islamist agenda, the CMSA may be many things; but a truly moderate voice for American Muslims is not among them. When we find that Pres. Obama has been working with them to hand-pick 45 Muslims to work at the White House the CMSA’s barely hidden agenda should be more than alarming.
My last piece about the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association was the beginning of a look at the resources linked to on the CMSA “resource links” page. The CMSA has the usual disclaimer at the top banishing any base suspicions that the information so linked might actually agree with the personal positions of the CMSA or its board. Taking that into account I chose to look at MAJOR REPORTS ON MUSLIMS: DOMESTIC & INTERNATIONAL of which there are only two; one on International Muslims and one on American Muslims. Call me rash but I will assume that since only one report is linked on each subject the CMSA board probably agrees with what those reports have to say.
The first part was an analysis of the executive summery for the report on American Muslims: Strengthening America: The Civic and Political Integration of Muslim Americans(The Chicago Council). In this part I will look at the recommendations the report makes, so put on your crazy glasses and hang on, if this part is anything like the summery it is going to get a bit psychotic.
The recommendations that follow call upon a wide range of institutions and leaders, Muslim and non-Muslim, to assist in speeding the Muslim American journey to full participation.

 Recommendation #1

 Expand and Recognize Muslim American Contributions to National Security

The horror of the September 11 attacks brought Americans together in their common humanity and a sense of purpose in countering the threat of terrorism. Many Muslim Americans shared in this reaction and commitment. A number of prominent Muslim American organizations condemned the attacks of September 11, reached out to help the victims, worked to raise awareness of the Quran’s teachings against violence, and cooperated with law enforcement agencies on antiterrorism efforts. While government officials have credited Muslim Americans for these and subsequent efforts, doubts about the efforts persist. The visibility and effectiveness of the Muslim American response to September 11 was limited in part by the lack of institutional capacity and recognizable voices in the community.

 It remains critical that Muslim Americans take more active steps to counter the threat of terror and that the government work more effectively to build trust and partnerships with the Muslim American community.

 Disavowing terrorism

 Many Muslim Americans have taken positive steps to denounce terrorism and differentiate their traditions from the beliefs of radical groups. It is crucial that they continue to focus on these positive steps as the danger of terrorism persists. While Muslim Americans question the fairness of holding all Muslim Americans responsible for constantly condemning the actions of a few extremists, the reality is that in the eyes of much of American society, the burden is still on Muslim Americans to respond. Muslim American leaders and organizations can amplify their condemnations of extremism and terrorist acts, strengthen their efforts to prevent radical activity within the Muslim American community, and find more effective ways to communicate these endeavors to the media and the public.

Expanding contributions to homeland security

 Successful partnerships between Muslim Americans and local law enforcement such as Southern California’s Muslim-American Homeland Security Congress should be expanded. A national network of such partnerships could play a vital role in the early detection of potential threats. Programs like the Muslim Public Affairs Council’s “National Grassroots Campaign to Fight Terrorism” can be extended to all U.S. mosques. Muslim leaders can do more to encourage young Muslim Americans to seek employment with the U.S. government and could work with relevant government agencies to create internships.

So far so good it seems. But the last couple sentences wrap a lot of taqqiya into a small space. This recommendation fails to mention that the majority of mosques are disseminating Islamist literature, instead it places the blame on Americans for expecting Muslims to be “constantly condemning the actions of a few extremists” and conflates “realty” with “in the eyes of much of American society“. A silent majority of “moderates” pretending that most of their mosques don’t spread hate and blaming society for expecting them to root out the “extremists” wholeheartedly becomes mainly the fault of American bias against Muslims.
 
Expanding contributions to homeland security
 
Successful partnerships between Muslim Americans and local law enforcement such as Southern California’s Muslim-American Homeland Security Congress should be expanded. A national network of such partnerships could play a vital role in the early detection of potential threats. Programs like the Muslim Public Affairs Council’s “National Grassroots Campaign to Fight Terrorism” can be extended to all U.S. mosques. Muslim leaders can do more to encourage young Muslim Americans to seek employment with the U.S. government and could work with relevant government agencies to create internships.
The U.S. government can do more to facilitate communication and cooperation with Muslim America. Public statements by senior officials acknowledging the significance of Muslim American contributions to national security and emphasizing the importance of not holding any group accountable for the actions of a few would help build public acceptance and understanding of the community. 
As we can see by following the links I have added, both the MPAC and MAHSC have less than sterling reputations themselves, unless of course we consider threats solely as they pertain to the Islamists! When it comes to detecting and dealing with those sorts of threats both groups appear expert.
Cultural sensitivity training for federal law enforcement officers would also increase the trust and communication necessary for fuller cooperation. A further vital step is to ensure that any investigations conducted by law enforcement be carried out in ways that do not violate U. S. laws and civil rights.
How about we give them “cultural awareness” training instead so they can do their jobs AWARE of the cultural prejudices of Muslims rather than teach them to be afraid to do their jobs lest their “sensitivity” be questioned?
Recommendation #2

 Improve Media Coverage and Public Understanding of Muslim Americans


In recent public opinion surveys, a sizable minority of Americans expressed fear and hostility toward Muslims and Islam, creating perceptions of a rising Islamophobia in the United States.

Media efforts to educate the public on Islam and the lives of Muslim Americans have been complicated by the spread of terrorist violence in the Middle East and elsewhere and by terrorists’ continuing claim that they are acting in the name of Islam.  

The language should be familiar by now; ignore all Islamist tendencies in the Muslim population and attack Americans for their rightful concerns by portraying them as “Islamophobes.” Forget about seeing any admission of extremist forces working freely in mosques across America in this recommendation.
While many major American newspapers and broadcast media have improved the quality of their coverage of Islam and Muslim societies since September 11, others have continued to present Islam as a monolith and to portray Muslims in stereotypical or biased ways that create an “us-versusthem” mentality.
Mostly complicated by the “moderate” Muslims being equivocal at best in their condemnations, and very quick to accuse the U.S. of racist bias after every arrest of an “extremist” Muslim.
Public opinion studies also show that Americans who are more familiar with Islam and know Muslim Americans personally are more likely to see them as being like other Americans.
Almost a complete lie; it only applies when speaking about the above mentioned cultural Muslims. The more contact Americans have with devout Muslims the more they are disquieted by their beliefs and practices.
Working with the media 
 
Media organizations and Muslim American groups could jointly sponsor seminars to address concerns on both sides and deepen relationships and understanding. 
 
Muslim organizations could train their leaders and spokespersons to communicate more effectively with the media and proactively pitch stories.
They could, and they have, but the most vocal of the “moderate” groups, such as CAIR, have routinely prevented anyone from speaking at these events that does not toe their line about cultural Muslims being representative of devout Muslims. They will even go so far as to cancel their entire participation rather than give objective views of Islam a platform.
The media can work to eliminate or clarify language that conflates Islam or Muslims with fascism or terrorism, strive for informed coverage of events—including Muslim American condemnations of violence and radicalism—and support the training of more Muslim American journalists.
This has certainly been implemented! The “moderate” Muslim organizations are masters at jumping on ANY story about Islamic extremists and branding all non-Muslims in sight racists and Islamophobes. The few Muslim leaders that speak the truth are branded traitors.
But, once again anyone with sense can see that as long as the terrorists themselves continue to use language that “conflates Islam or Muslims with fascism or terrorism” this self-censorship would only serve to give the Islamists an open playing field.
Al Haramain Islamic Foundation (AHIF), Armed Islamic Group (GIA), Islamic Resistance (IR), Islamic Struggle Movement (ISM), Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), Muslim Brotherhood (MB), Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). Need I go on? I think the “Islamophobes” that feel reports like this one only seek to disarm the West, while allowing the Islamists free reign may be forgiven the Leftist media’s accusations of paranoia.
Creating an independent, national organization dedicated to public education
The creation of a new non-advocacy institution focused on educating the public about Muslim cultures and societies would help broaden American understanding. 
 
The institution would be non-ethnic, non-denominational, and non-political and would provide information on the rich and diverse heritage of the Muslim world through exhibitions, lectures, conferences, and publications. Over time, the organization could become a trusted, impartial source of information and expertise for the public, media, and government on the many facets of Muslim life throughout the world.
Theoretically, yes it could. If it actually was dedicated to the analysis of Islam in all its facets, and not simply apologizing for the religion while avoiding all criticism.
Undertaking a wide range of efforts to further public understanding

Demystifying Islam for the general public will require greater initiatives by many different Muslim American groups and other American organizations, working separately and in partnership.

I agree, Oh, I most certainly do! At least if that institution is based on reality and not taqqiya that serves the Jihadist cause. Given what we have seen so far is anyone willing to bet that this is the intent of the recommendation? 2 for 1? 5 for 1? How about 10 for 1? I thought you folks were smarter than that, thanks for proving me right! But each day media people and politicians read things like that and swallow the hook whole. Common sense still has not managed to become contagious.
Interfaith activities, cultural events, and educational initiatives at the primary, secondary, and university levels would all increase awareness of the community and its intellectual, scientific, and cultural achievements.
I agree, it is silly to be told by Muslims that “Islam is not monolithic” but that, “Islam is a religion of Peace” or that “Islam does not support terrorism” which certainly seem to be references to a monolithic faith. A little truth and clarity would go a long way toward building an effective response to Islamic Jihadist movements in the U.S. and elsewhere.
It is vital that non-Muslim religious and secular organizations take part in this work since they have the capacity to reach audiences that Muslim institutions cannot, and their participation would enhance the legitimacy and credibility of the message.
That last bit is certainly a no-brainer. Any group with such a transparent agenda would need lots of “useful idiots” to give them credibility. Witness the meltdown of CAIR as its agenda is exposed and its influence fades with the light.
Recommendation #3

Increase Civic Engagement among Muslim Americans

 Much of the groundwork for achieving increased civic and political integration is in place. Most Muslim Americans view the United States as their home. They see no contradiction between the moral teachings of Islam and the values that Americans hold dear.

Surprisingly enough this is not a false statement. However, it is merely a smokescreen meant to conceal instead of illuminate. By the numbers the majority of American Muslims do seem to believe that Islam does not contradict American values. The problem comes from that majority being more ignorant of the core teachings of Islam than they are about just what ideals like free speech and freedom of religion really mean.
A number of institutions and initiatives are already positioned to help. Speeding Muslim American integration is in the interest of all Americans, and success will involve building on these foundations and creating stronger ties between Muslim and non-Muslim groups.
All of which is totally meaningless if the groups refuse to set the “radicals” apart from them, and prove that the “tiny minority of extremists” did not receive the same teachings they did. Just as the report called new, moderate Muslim beliefs “traditions” and the traditional positions of the Islamists “beliefs”, this recommendation ignores the mainstream essence of the Islamist teachings: Pretend that modernist non-devout Muslims are representative of the mainstream of the devout. The problem is that it is be like Bishop Spong claiming to represent conservative Christians!
Expanding partnerships

 Encouraging Muslim Americans to play a greater part in civic life should be a high priority for Muslim organizations. Opportunities for engagement can be increased by expanding existing partnerships with non-Muslim groups and by forming new partnerships. Such activities create opportunities for Muslim leaders to frame public service in a Muslim context and make civic participation a fundamental element of Muslim American life.

To date all that has been accomplished on this head is for the Muslim elected officials to spout the same official “moderate” taqqiya as the usual suspects; CAIR and the MSA.
Forming a national leadership group of prominent Muslim Americans

 A leadership network of prominent Muslim Americans could strengthen Muslim American institutions and create new programs to encourage Muslim youth to enter public service. The enhanced communication among Muslim American leaders would help their organizations and the community at large respond more rapidly and effectively to public and media interest, especially in times of heightened concern. Members of the leadership group could also serve as “community ambassadors” to the U.S. government, offering informed perspectives on U.S. relations with Muslim societies, and as interlocutors between Muslim Americans and Muslim communities abroad.

All of this has been done and much has been accomplished for the stealth Jihad. How it has served to protect American values or the Constitution goes unsaid.
Building coalitions on important policy initiatives

 Muslim American organizations could make a valuable contribution to the American body politic by expanding their participation in coalitions concerned with issues such as immigration, public health, and the strengthening of democratic institutions. This will help other Americans understand that Muslims have great concern for a wide range of issues affecting the national well-being. It will also enable Muslims to expand their contributions to the larger society and increase the moral authority of Muslim leaders when they seek support on issues of particular interest to Muslim Americans.

While this HAS been done, the results seem to favor the Islamist expansion rather than the “assimilation” of American Muslims. Contrary to the claimed intent, it seems these organizations exist more for the purpose of creating and expanding alienation in the Muslim communities of America.
Bridging religious divides

 The country would benefit from greater cooperation among Muslim, Christian, and Jewish organizations. All three faiths share a deep spiritual connection to the Middle East, but their disagreements over U.S. foreign policy and events in the region have severely strained interfaith relations and hampered the dialogue and collaboration on numerous important domestic issues. Current conversations can be expanded to include an increasingly diverse group of organizations, becoming the basis of a national forum for interfaith discussions.

Oh that is a good one! Is this what passes for Islamist humor? “disagreements over U.S. foreign policy and events” in the Middle East have “severely strained interfaith relations and hampered the dialogue and collaboration.”
That mainstream Muslims claim Christianity and Judaism are working from corrupt Islamic texts has nothing to do with it? The increasing attacks on Jews and Christians anywhere Muslims hold even a little political power don’t make a difference? Nor is the rampant holocaust denial and fanatical hatred of Israel part of the issue? O.K., now that we have that out of our system can we get back to reality?
Recommendation #4

Build Stronger Muslim American Institutions

 Muslim American institutions do not have the range of opportunities for participation in the policy discourse to meet the community’s and the nation’s needs. Their limited role is partly attributable to the diversity of Muslim America, which complicates efforts to coalesce on issues or to create institutions that cross over among different Muslim American groups.

What #4 seems to be saying is that without Saudi financing it is hard to get actual main street American Muslims to give enough support to the Islamist taqqiya groups for them to pursue their agenda.
The capacity constraints typical of young ethnic and religious institutions have also been a handicap. In addition, some institutions have avoided foreign policy issues for fear of drawing unfavorable scrutiny or detracting from their work on civil rights. While the challenge of strengthening(sic) Muslim American institutions may appear daunting, similar challenges have been met time and again by other immigrant groups and minority communities. Many of the strategies used by these groups can be emulated by Muslim Americans.
True enough, but which strategies will they use? Will it be the strategy and morals of Martin Luther King or the strategy and lack of morals shown by the Black Panthers? Will they emulate Gandhi or will they follow the path laid out by Arafat?
Increasing institutional effectiveness and engagement

 It is critical that existing Muslim American organizations be strengthened further and that new ones be formed to help increase understanding of Muslim American life and facilitate participation in the civic and political discourse. Many existing institutions need to restructure, develop new strategies, and learn how to effectively deliver their messages.

With all the associations that have been revealed about the main “moderate” Muslim advocacy groups this can only be read as a call to retrench, regroup, and form new faces to continue the taqqiya and kitman of discredited groups like CAIR and the MSA.
They need to provide Muslim Americans with education on the workings of American civic and political life, and they need to improve dialogue and interaction across ethnic, sectarian, and generational lines within the Muslim American community.
Call me paranoid but I see this sentence as expressing a desire to educate and organize American Muslims for the purpose of subverting the system rather than participating in it. This tactic has already been used by many groups from the World Communist Party to radical Christians educating followers on how to take over local governments and establish “Biblical” legislation after running on moderate platforms.
As they build capacity, Muslim organizations will have more success in forming partnerships with non-Muslim organizations to address issues of common concern. American foundations should be encouraged to make a long-term commitment to helping these institutions become more effective.
This part ignores the fact that in America, the only non-Muslim groups that share concerns with devout Muslims on social issues (other than PC fools protecting minority religions from mainstream criticism)are on the fringes of mainstream society themselves. Think segregation of sexes and religions, think domination of the man over his family, think extreme angst and hostility toward homosexuals and ANY woman who is not under a man’s contro, think denial of service to those who “offend” against Islamic sensibilities. Headline: CAIR allies with Fred Phelps, news at eleven.
Broadening academic and policy initiatives

The engagement of more Muslim American scholars in the activities of think tanks, research institutes, and universities on issues related to Islam and Muslim societies would also be valuable. There is a need for endowed chairs, fellowships, centers for policy and area studies, and other structures to support the work of established and emerging Muslim and non-Muslim scholars of Islam. Postdoctoral fellowship programs in Islamic studies that are open to Americans of all religious backgrounds as well as fellowship programs for young Muslim American scholars studying important public policy issues of all types are also needed.

From this point on it is hard to pretend that this document is anything but a plan for setting the roots of the stealth Jihad in America firmly in the soil. It is already an open scandal that virtually all Islamic “Studies” scholars merely parrot the same nonsensical “party line” as this report, CAIR, and the Muslim Brotherhood. The last thing we need are more of these same dissembling “moderate” Muslims muddying the waters in the “activities of think tanks, research institutes, and universities on issues related to Islam and Muslim societies.”
Enlarging the scope and impact of academic and policy initiatives will require the strong commitment of American universities, think tanks, government agencies, and philanthropists.
More collaboration between Muslim American institutions and established think tanks and research institutes would also strengthen Muslim American integration into the policy discourse. There are few strong links between Muslim American institutions and leaders and think tanks and research institutes undertaking work related to Islam and Muslim communities. More joint efforts would help add new perspectives to the policy discussions of think tanks and research institutes.
Once again the authors remind us that without useful idiots their program is doomed to possible failure.
It would also help Muslim American institutions build their knowledge base by providing more exposure to policy analysis.
In other words it would help build an intelligence database on the deepest policies and capabilities of the enemy. Go back through this report and replace the word Muslim or Islam etc. with “Radical Christian Right” or “Nazi” equivalents. Would you let such groups have this kind of access as part of FIGHTING their radical agendas?
 
  This might have to do with the fact that their Imams keep telling them that America is trash, and that democracy is an evil inferior to the Shari’a.
Recommendation #5
Cultivate the Next Generation of Muslim American Leaders

 

 

Young Muslim Americans are also not as fully engaged as other American youth in U.S. political and civic life.
Developing the leadership potential and professional skills of young Muslim Americans is crucial to creating an informed, seasoned, and capable group of leaders who can contribute to the betterment of the nation as a whole. Engaging young Muslim Americans in civic life is also a critical factor in reducing the potential for alienation.

Making leadership development of young Muslim Americans a priority[,] Muslim American organizations could work with local, state, and federal government agencies to create internship programs for young Muslim Americans. Think tanks and universities based in Washington should be encouraged to create fellowship programs to increase understanding of the policy process. Muslim and non-Muslim institutions can also jointly sponsor speaking tours to encourage public service among young Muslim Americans.

Do I even need to analyze this part?

 Training young staff and new leaders

 Developing leaders and staff is essential if Muslim American organizations are to maximize their ability to contribute to the policy discourse. Young staff members need high-quality theoretical and practical training. Special attention should be given to leadership training for women.

Since most of the reasons Westerners are suspicious of Islam center around the mis-treatment of women, having a few Muslimahs trained to betray their sisters certainly would be useful!
Recommendation #6

Give Ongoing National Attention to Muslim American Integration

Establishing an American Diversity Dialogue

 The Task Force proposes that an ongoing American Diversity Dialogue among Muslim and non-Muslim leaders be established to examine critical issues related to Muslim civic and political integration in the United States. This would help give prominence to the issue and provide thoughtful and informed assessments of Muslim American civic and political integration over time. The American Diversity Dialogue would meet approximately three times a year in a rotating group of cities and would commission research to inform its discussions. It would issue an annual report on The State of Muslim America that would be widely disseminated to policymakers, the media, and the American public. Dialogue leadership and membership should be drawn from a group of highly respected public figures such as former government officials, business and civic leaders, and policy experts.

And why should we think that this ADD will be any more honest than any other Muslim “outreach” has been since 9/11? What will they do FOR America given their stated agenda of seizing control of the national dialogue concerning Islam for the benefit of Muslim Americans? Why should they be viewed with any less suspicion than any other religious, political, or racial group that sought the same kind of exclusive control on discussions of their ideology and methods?
Creating a national philanthropic initiative on American diversity

 A national philanthropic initiative on American diversity would expand financial support to nonprofit, nonpolitical educational, research, cultural, and civic organizations in order to deepen appreciation of diversity in America and strengthen its expression in society.

 The initiative would focus particularly on the Muslim American experience, strengthening public understanding of that experience and creating opportunities for greater Muslim American civic and political participation. Funding would come from foundations and individuals during a one-time capital campaign. The initiative’s corpus would be spent over a defined period of time such as ten years.

My response to this is simply: WHY? Why do we need to do anything other than promote the idea that anyone is entitled to their religion as long as they do not violate the law in its practice? Why do we need to hurry to appreciate something that can be good, bad or indifferent when we should wait to see which it is in each instance first? Lastly, why are all other “diversity” groups slighted in favor of promoting what has to be one of the smallest and certainly the most self-isolating of them all?
Conclusion

 The recommendations in this report are offered as a step toward strengthening the democracy entrusted to us by the founding fathers and the U.S. Constitution.

Excuse me while I go stop the Founding Fathers from spinning in their graves. The friction is about to set their coffins on fire.
The integration of minority groups, women, and immigrants into our civic and political processes has been slow, [ch]allenging work in the past. Yet its practical and symbolic importance cannot be underestimated. Muslims, like many other immigrant groups, came to the United States in search of religious and political freedom, in need of refuge, and in hopes of prosperity.
Many surely did, but many also came for the same reasons that the Puritans did, to have the freedom to bring their own religious prejudices to these shores and establish them as permanent institutions. Thankfully, all that the Puritans accomplished was to scare the rest of the colonies into agreeing inserting religious freedom into the Constitution! Let us hope these Muslim “pilgrims” are just as “fruitful” in their mission.
The tragic events of September 11 and their aftermath have challenged our security, put the dream of America to the test for Muslim Americans, and called our values as a nation into question.

 Yet with today’s critical foreign and domestic policy challenges, there is an urgent need for Muslim Americans to enter more fully into the national discourse. This is first and foremost the responsibility of Muslim Americans themselves, but also of the government, the policy establishment, the media, and other major American institutions.

By working together to ensure that Muslim American voices are heard, we will not only increase our own security, but make our foreign policy a truer expression of who we are as a nation and reaffirm our commitment to the ideal of E pluribus unum (one out of many).

I would have to agree with that last part, but, I don’t think the authors’ idea of what makes up the “Muslim American Voice” is an accurate picture of anything at all. Instead, it is the mask of a bandit who hopes to sneak past the guards by pretending to be “with the band.”

 

 

Back to CMSA: Assimilating American Muslims or Surrendering to Them?

.Today Heretics Crusade is going to be continuing to look at the Congressional Muslim Staffer’s Association (CMSA). In a series of changes CMSA made to their website there has been added new links to the Resources Page. Under Major Reports we find this document as the only report linked regarding Muslims in America.

 

Strengthening America: The Civic and Political Integration of Muslim Americans(The Chicago Council). It is this document that I will be analyzing. It is the sole document linked on the CMSA Resource Page regarding relations with American Muslims.
Despite the title there is little in this report designed to strengthen America. “Blaming America: Promoting Islamization Rather Than Integration” would be a better title in my opinion. Every word drips with a victim’s mentality, and the authors find many ways to blame America for every problem, real or imagined, experienced by American Muslims.
Meanwhile the document seems to be defining “real” Muslims as those who haven’t yet broken any laws to promote Islam no matter their ideology.
Hang on to your knickers Virginia, this is going to be a long strange trip.
Executive Summary
Muslim Americans were thrust into the spotlight by the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, whose perpetrators claimed to be acting in the name of Islam.
From the first sentence the passive aggressiveness is apparent. M.A’s were “thrust” into the spotlight and the perpetrators only “claimed” Islamic imperative.
Many Americans, knowing little about Islam or about Muslims living in the United States, came to identify the terrorist threat with the Muslim community at large and to view Muslim Americans with deep suspicion and doubt.
This had nothing to do with the instances of “mainstream” Imam after Imam excusing attacks on non-Muslim civilians of course. It also had nothing to do with attack after unconstitutional attack in the courts on separation of church and state.  It CERTAINLY had nothing to do with the ideology demanded by the Shari’a; banish the thought.  It just “sort of happened” seems to be the theory, and a generous helping of Inherent American Racism And Xenophobia™ of course.
Nearly six years later, fears and suspicion remain. Terrorism remains an urgent threat, the terrorists continue to wrap themselves in the mantle of Islam, misunderstandings persist, and the ability of Muslim Americans to counter the rising tide of skepticism has been impeded, damaging the efforts of the many who are ardently trying to carve a constructive place in American society.
Interestingly, here we see a stark admission that “terrorism” and “the terrorists” are intimately linked with the “mantle of Islam.” It is not made clear just WHO is doing the “misunderstanding” however.  What we ARE assured of is that the faceless villains of this report are keeping the invisible (to non-Muslim eyes) proponents of “Muslim Americans” from carving out their piece of the American Dream.  From my reading of the news though, the biggest threat to moderate Muslim voices in America isn’t non-Muslims, it is the pretend “moderates” shilling for fundamentalist Islamist domination of Western Institutions who conspire to keep American Muslims from assimilating. Groups such as CAIR and the MSA.
Despite these limitations, many Muslim Americans joined with other Americans in responding to the September 11 attacks.  They volunteered time and money to relief efforts. Several leading national Muslim organizations came out immediately to condemn the attacks. Others have cooperated with law enforcement agencies to address homeland security challenges.
Forgotten here are the many “moderate” Imams and Islamic scholars who, at best equivocated on just who is “innocent” and just what is meant by “civilians.” We can also see better from two years later that the “cooperation” offered by these organizations has been lukewarm at best.
At the same time, extensive federal and other law enforcement investigations since September 11 have focused on Muslim Americans. These investigations have resulted in arrests and a small number of successful prsecutions on terrorism-related charges.

 

I think it would be better if the authors of this abortion manual just came out and admitted that they support global Islamization and stop with the transparent B.S. already.  Just a few paragraphs ago this very document admitted that “terrorists” used a “mantle of Islam.”.  Do the authors’ feel that it would be more productive to focus terrorism investigations on Lithuanian Jews?  Perhaps we could focus on Coptic Christians and gain Muslim trust by joining in on the accelerating genocide occurring in Egypt.
The worst bit though, is the downplaying of the charges and convictions resulting from terrorism investigations.  I must have missed the huge number of acquittals of accused plotters and abettors.  Or did I?  It certainly reads a little nonsensically; “a small number of successful prosecutions.” But, the report cannot feel the full number of prosecutions was excessive or surely it would have said so.  Would the authors have been happier if there had been a much larger number of charges and convictions?
Though any involvement of Muslim Americans with extremism raises strong concerns, independent studies have underscored that unlike in Europe, there is little, if any, publicly available evidence to date of widespread or entrenched extremist activity with links to al Qaeda or other global terrorist organizations.

 

More silliness that sounds like counsel from an enemy.  Are we to wait to be “concerned” about Muslim American “extremism” until AFTER global terrorists groups have “widespread or entrenched” cells in the U.S.”?  Are solo groups or individual extremists to be somehow off limits until that threshold is reached?  I think it is reasonable to start wondering by this point “whose side are they on anyway?”
Nevertheless, Muslim American efforts to dissociate themselves from the terrorist threat have not been fully effective for a number of reasons. The perception by many Americans that some Muslim American organizations and leaders have not fully and readily acknowledged the potential for radicalism within the community and the need for vigilance in countering it has been a barrier to understanding and dialogue.

 

My, isn’t the taqqiya getting thick now.  Note that it is the “perception by many Americans” of Muslim leaders not admitting potential radicalism or being vigilant in countering it that is the problem, NOT any actual failings by Muslim leaders.  Two years after the report was published this sentence is almost laughable in its transparent spin.  We do not have proper understanding and dialogue with Muslim Americans because non-Muslim Americans have stubbornly failed to see Muslim leaders doing something the report itself does not claim they actually DO.   We are probably also at fault when Muslim American children don’t floss.
Some Americans have continued to view Muslim Americans with suspicion because they question the compatibility of Islam with American values, focusing on issues such as the treatment of women and the separation of church and state.
This sentence actually is completely accurate, if you define the “they” as “Muslims Americans” and not “some Americans.” I would be willing to bet however, that this was NOT the authors’ intention. Americans are suspicious of Muslims regarding these matters because of the outspoken, anti-Western stand on them taken by MANY Muslim leaders claiming to be representatives of the mainstream.  The authors’ however seem to want us to believe that this suspicion is nothing but American Paranoia.
Many Muslim Americans and some other Americans believe that hostility toward Islam and Muslim Americans is preventing their voices from being heard and their contributions from being recognized.
Does your intelligence feel even a tad insulted yet?  No matter that every time a truly moderate Muslim voice speaks out CAIR and the other Taqqiya Moderates attack them for exposing Islam and Muslims to prejudice and potential violence, this report KNOWS that moderate Muslims are not heard because of non-Muslim hostility. They are not heard simply because the very people who sponsored this report work actively to suppress them and their voices.
Let us not forget that this report was prominently featured on the resources page of the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association!  We must assume that they carefully picked and chose just what links to include.  The disclaimer of association with the content is a tad disingenuous when there is but ONE link to ONE report on Muslim Americans provided.
The contention among some Americans that Islam is incompatible with American values is thought to fuel organized attempts to discredit Islam and exclude Muslims from the nation’s civic and political life. This has created fear and resentment among many Muslim Americans that has also contributed to an atmosphere of mistrust.

 

I like this one!  Another weasel word is introduced; contention. Forget about mentioning that ALL of the four main schools of Islamic thought agree that Islam is incompatible with ANY rule of law not based in Shari’a.  According to this eminent report it is merely the CONTENTION by evil Westerners that this is so that fuels the anti-Islamist tide that is rising in the West and in Islam itself.
Okaay. Are you still with us Virginia, you are looking a touch green about the gills.  Was it something you read?
The disengagement of Muslim Americans undermines American values, especially the conviction that the success of our nation relies on embracing our diversity and involving all our citizens in the public arena.

 

I wonder if anyone ever had the nerve to suggest to these people that “involving all our citizen’s…” means NOT treating Muslims ANY differently than anyone else in America?  That it means NO special enclaves, rules or accommodations out of line with those already afforded to other religions?  I for one would not put odds on it being likely they would listen.

 

The gathering climate of suspicion and mutual mistrust, exacerbated by the lack of engagement and dialogue, threatens to marginalize and alienate some Muslim Americans to the point where the danger of radicalization of a small minority could become a real possibility.

 

Such a nice country you have, it would be SUCH a SHAME if anything were to happen to it!

Is it a coincidence that the Mafia came from Sicily, where Islam just happened to have invaded and dominated the locals for a few hundred years immediately prior to their formation?  It must be. It just would not be PC to think otherwise, would it now?

It would take only a single, significant act of terrorism in the United States involving Muslim Americans to cement the impression that rampant radicalism has taken root within the community.

 

Really? Go tell that to CNN, CBS, ABC, FOX and all the other mainstream news channels that can’t seem to figure out why the Ft. Hood massacre happened.

 

Therefore, the Task Force believes that creating full and equal opportunities for civic and political participation of Muslim Americans is an urgent national need.

 

Who is it that is denying them these opportunities?  What I see are “mainstream” groups like CAIR telling the Muslim Americans to NOT act like they are fully American.  How else should we view CAIR’s instructions to Muslims residing in America to call a lawyer then notify CAIR if the FBI asks them about extremists in their community?

 

It is vital that Muslim Americans find ways to demonstrate visibly their commitment to America, its institutions, and its values. This well-educated, diverse group has the potential to make contributions to civic life and policy discourse as varied and numerous as those of any other group of Americans.

 

FINALLY, a statement that we can agree on without reservations!  It IS vital for Muslims in America to step up and be SEEN and HEARD supporting American values and institutions instead of demanding “respect” for practices outlawed long ago in the West for ALL peoples, religious or otherwise.

 

The Task Force prepared this report in order to present a balanced, nonpartisan assessment of the current Muslim American experience and recommendations for expediting the Muslim American journey to full civic and political integration. Many immigrant and minority groups have had to overcome suspicion and hostility in order to win full acceptance in the public sphere. While there is no doubt that Muslim Americans would in time achieve full integration in U.S. society, just as other groups have, the need to accelerate the process is urgent. The risks of inaction are substantial: further marginalization of Muslim Americans at best and serious alienation at worst.

 

Well we have seen how “balanced and non-partisan” first part of the executive summery is. Somehow I don’t think the recommendations will be any better.

 

The goal of bringing Muslim Americans into the fold of American life as quickly as possible is in the interest of all Americans. Muslim American leaders and organizations, government, the policy establishment, the media, and other major institutions all have significant roles to play in this process. The short-term need is critical, and the long-term gains cannot be overstated. The civic and political engagement of Muslim Americans will not only increase security, but enrich our policies, our society, and our standing as a nation that upholds basic human values of decency and fairness and that provides hope and opportunity for all.

 

So, once again we are assured that it is AMERICA that must adjust to Islam, not Islam to America.  Why do I get the feeling that the report’s idea of civic and political engagement for Muslims will not involve MUSLIMS giving up any of their non-Western ways?
Later I will look at the report’s six recommendations and the conclusion.  Right now I need a breath of fresh air.  I am feeling a bit nauseated by the smell of manure.
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Congressional Muslim Staffers Invite Knox Thames: Islamist or Moderate?

In Heretics Crusade’s latest look at the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association we examine their first published “event.”

 

As I showed in earlier articles, the CMSA requires attendance at their events and programs in order for its members to obtain voting rights. The rub was that until recently there were no events posted on the CMSA website. After I highlighted that omission several times the CMSA obliged with this:

 

Congressional Muslim Staffers Association
Public & International Affairs Briefing Series

U.S.C.I.R.F.
A Briefing on U.S. Monitoring of the International Status of
Freedom of Thought, Conscience, and Religion or Belief

Presentation and Q&A with:

Knox Thames
Acting Executive Director
U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom

Friday, November 13, 2009
11:00AM to 12:00PM
2456 Rayburn H.O.B.
U.S. House of Representatives

Knox Thames? Who is he you ask? I would like to be able to report that Mr. Thames is an outspoken moderate who stands firmly against the Islamist mentality. We do not always get to do what we like. This is one of those times.

 

The Religious Liberty Dinner 2010 website says:

 

“H. Knox Thames, Esq.

 

Mr. Thames served as Counsel to the United States Helsinki Commission, a federal agency that works with Congress to monitor human rights within the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) region, from 2001 to 2007. Mr. Thames led the work of the Commission in monitoring religious freedom and issues concerning refugees and internally displaced persons in all 56 OSCE countries. He also served as a member of U.S. State Department delegations to numerous OSCE meetings, and has traveled on behalf of the Commission throughout Europe and Central Asia. The State Department also selected Mr. Thames to serve as one of the two U.S. appointees to the OSCE Panel of Experts on Freedom of Religion or Belief.”

 

In following Mr. Thames’ trail across the internet I have come to the opinion that he is like a very skilled doctor that calmly and accurately diagnoses an aggressive cancer and goes into detail about what is wrong and what the progress of the cancer will be… then tells the patient to continue with the aspirin their mother gave them; she knows best.

 

When it comes to Islam Mr. Thames shows even more double-think than the usual Leftist. He is interesting in that he goes into full detail in laying out a fairly objective view of a situation and then makes conclusions that come solely from his programmed ideology instead of the facts.
I could only find a couple of pieces that reflect Knox’s own views rather than a group consensus.
I will focus on one he wrote in 2005 titled Governmental Responses to Muslim Populations in Western Europe:

 

“Islam qua Islam is a religion of peace and not of violence. Muslims who pervert the teachings of Islam to justify terrorism are a small, radicalized minority of the faith.”

 

Here anyone who is familiar with the details of the Quran, Hadith and Shari ‘a can see that this statement is totally disingenuous. It may be that many Muslims wish to ignore Shari ‘a and re-edit the Hadith to support their own, personal urges toward a civil religion. It is false however to say that ISLAM is about peace and not violence.

 

At least to Western minds it is false. It is a habit with Muslim apologists to point out that Islam did not spread the religion by the sword. It merely conquered those evil non-Islamic governments so the people could be “free” to choose the “right” faith.” Then they had peace!

Yet after the September 11th attacks in New York and the March 11th train bombings in Madrid [and London 4 months after this was written (GDW)], the threat of Islamist-based terrorism has loomed large in the minds of Europeans. European governments must now grapple with how to provide their citizens with security and effectively investigate leads, yet avoid painting all adherents of Islam as dangerous to society.”

I think that here he needs to define just what he means by “adherent” and, especially, “Islam” before we can accept this statement. The problem is the Shari‘a that “adherent” Muslims are supposed to follow. This religious law is based in the Quran and the Hadith; stories about the acts and words of Mohammed compiled two hundred years after his death. That compilation contains many tales justifying horrific cruelty and discrimination against women and non-Muslims, even children. Under Shari ‘a it is murder to kill someone unjustly, unless that person is your own child or grandchild, then the Islamic Law says it is not a crime at all. To an “adherent” Muslim an honor killing is not murder, it is more of a familial house cleaning in order to maintain rightness in the eyes of God.

 

Further the “adherent” Muslim is instructed by the Hadith and Shari ‘a to strictly avoid submitting to ANY secular laws that conflict with Shari ‘a. How far each individual Muslim takes this injunction is a personal matter. What is not personal is that virtually all “devout” Muslims accept this concept as a matter of course.

 

Also personal is how far each Muslim takes the injunction to spread Islam BY ANY MEANS. The injunction itself however, is not equivocal nor is it something that goes against “the grain” of Islamic ideology.

 

Add to this that it is a core teaching of all the major sects of Islam that Mohammed was as perfect as a human could be and that his acts and words form a template for the “ideal man.” As such anything that Mohammed did CANNOT be wrong and anything Mohammed disliked or put down is inherently evil.

 

The problem is that this man devout Muslims hold up to be imitated was a thin-skinned warlord who ordered people killed for insulting him and advised his followers to break any oath if “they find something better [to swear to]”, lied about what people said to sooth someone’s feelings, consummated a marriage with a nine year old and forced a Christian woman to marry him after he had killed her husband and father; so he could “protect” her of course.

 

This is not a figure that strikes a Westerner as ANY kind of role model but Muslims are taught from birth that he is the ONLY true role model. Cognitive dissonance is a polite term for what results when you take a devout Muslim and place them in a Western country.

 

The fact of the matter is that the “devout” Muslim is “peaceful” only when their religious supremacism is not challenged in a meaningful fashion. Muslims may choose to live lives of peace but Islam, an ideology that insists that the murder of a non-Muslim (criminal against God) is ALWAYS less evil than the OPPRESSION of a Muslim, clearly does not promote peace. At least not as Westerners think of it.

 

In witness of this observe how often a “devout” Muslim REFUSES to condemn any action by a Muslim to a non-Muslim NO MATTER THE RIGHTENESS OR WRONGNESS of the act!!! There can be no better indication than this of how the Islamic mindset DEMANDS a bi-polar view of humanity with non-Muslims occupying an eternally lower tier, in terms both of their rights, and worth in God’s eyes.

 

“Over the past several years, European governments have initiated efforts to engage their Muslim populations, while also monitoring them in an attempt to control perceived sources of instability, violence, and conflict. From an academic perspective, it has been interesting to observe the actions of governmental and political leaders in response to their large and marginalized Muslim communities. From a human rights and civil liberties perspective, it has also become increasingly troubling.”

 

Here we go again with the Leftist two-step of declaring actual sources of instability to be merely “perceived sources” followed by an appeal to victim status with the label “marginalized”. No effort is made by Mr. Thames to comment on the largely self inflicted nature of that marginalization.

 

“It is not difficult to see why Europe is concerned. Four of the 9/11 hijackers were students together in Hamburg, Germany. Richard Reid, the so-called “shoe bomber,” was born in London and carried a British passport. The perpetrators of the Madrid train bombings came from terrorist cells in Spain and possibly Italy.

 

 

 

“Yet it is here that the tension between respect for civil rights and effective security measures is felt. These realities present two questions with no easy answers. First, how strongly can a government legitimately push for assimilation of religious minorities before its actions unduly burden legitimate human rights? Second, how far can Western democracies reach in order to preempt Islamist-based terrorism, without further marginalizing their Muslim citizens?”

 

Here we first see Mr. Thames’ talent for stating an objective analysis and then homing in on the wrong issue. The line is bright and clear for all who do not seek to cross it; laws must be followed by all and all laws must by applied equally to any act “religious” or otherwise, no matter who “commits” it.
The only people who can’t seem to deal with those rules are the very people who seek to make THEIR religion master of all the other’s.

 

“In this article I will highlight several examples of where Western European governments are improperly limiting, or could potentially abridge, the civil liberties and basic rights of their Muslim populations. Government efforts to force assimilation, along with steps to combat terrorism, have in some cases unduly limited or vitiated the enjoyment of fundamental rights.”
Here genuflecting at the altar of Political Correctness, H. Knox shows how far he can go to ignore any obligations the “Muslim Populations” might have to assimilate and combat terrorism in their host’s land.
Granted that it is not good to “unduly limit or vitiate the enjoyment of fundamental rights” Mr. Thames says nothing about what constitutes “duly” when a population actively refuses to respect local laws.

 

“Policymakers must be mindful of the explosive confluence of a growing Muslim population, the events of 9/11 and 3/11, and increased government scrutiny of minorities. Infringements on civil liberties may well push Muslims further from the European community and only serve to alienate and radicalize them.”

 

I must say that Knox got plenty of bang for his bucks in his rhetoric classes. I count two implied threats followed by two direct threats, leading into a subtle but extortionate demand, followed by a final double threat. And he did it all in only two sentences!
The demand is basically to stop paying attention to what goes on in the Islamic community and to not interfere when local laws are violated by Muslims for “religious” reasons. The threat is obvious; 9/11 after 9/11 until the Muslim population is large enough and then…well, I think the message that Mr. Thames wants to convey is a twisted form of “what ye sow, so shall ye reap.” better phrased as “You let us sow your fields, now reap the whirlwind”!
 
“With deep historical roots in Europe, Islam is often cited as the fastest growing religion within the member countries of the European Union, with an estimated 12 million adherents living mostly in religious and ethnic enclaves throughout the continent. As a result of continued immigration and a decreasing birthrate among non-Muslim Europeans, Islam is increasing its representation. At the same time that “traditional” Europeans are declining in number due to changes in family size, the EU is continuing to expand into the former realms of the Ottoman Empire. Considering Turkey’s 68 million citizens, 99 percent of whom are Muslim, along with significant Muslim populations in Bulgaria and Bosnia, Islam’s demographic significance within the European Union will only continue to grow.”

It is growing harder and harder as we read this document to pretend that Mr. Thames is on the side of Western civilization against the Islamic Supremacists. “…deep historical roots…”? Is that what we now call centuries of invasion and cultural genocide by Muslims against European nations? The much gentler activity by the West toward non-European lands is called evil colonialism. Forgive me, but I think I see a double standard here.

In this paragraph we can see once again how many distortions and interpolations Mr. Thames can pack into his casual flow of words. He parrots the canard about Muslims growing faster, while avoiding admitting the draconian rules that force a maximum number of Muslims and prevent loss of “official” Muslims from the tally. Topping off the arrogance is his assumption of complete inevitability regarding Turkey being granted E.U. membership. He then uses that assumption as his trump card, saying (correctly) that when Turkey is a member resisting the Islamification of the E.U. will be completely useless.

 

“The changing demography has produced growing pains, as secular European governments struggle to adapt to their large and devout Muslim populations. … In addition to increasing numbers, Muslims are more devout than the average European. … In an age of religious skepticism and high regard for complete secularism, resolute adherence to the faith has caused further divisions between European Muslims and traditional Europeans.”

 

Bombing and riots and arson and rapes and “no-go zones” are a bit much to be called “growing pains in my book. In fact I find the term to be insulting to the intelligence of anyone aware of the facts. Also insulting is his triple assault on Western legal traditions (won with blood and suffering in our own religious wars) by claiming a greater “devoutness” as though this abrogates the 300 years of Enlightenment tradition that underlies European culture.

 

“…Just as European governments began to grapple and engage this oft-neglected community of immigrants and their progeny, the events of September 11 shocked the world. Distressed that several of the hijackers came from extremist Islamist cells within Europe, governments took resolute actions to apprehend criminals by looking for individuals hiding in Muslim communities. Scrutiny of Muslim communities also intensified because of the rise in anti-Semitic attacks in Europe. In the spring of 2002 Western Europe witnessed a profound spike in anti-Semitic acts unparalleled since the 1930s and 1940s. Many indicators suggest these incidents are not just examples of the “old” anti-Semitism of the far right, but also a new type of anti-Semitism, namely that stemming from disenfranchised European Muslim youth.”

 

At first glance the above bit is puzzling. Suddenly Knox seems to be looking at the situation from the other side. Fear not gentle reader, Mr. Thames’ taqqiya is intact if this is just another way for him to say “Nice little Europe you have here, shame if something happened to it…”!

 

“Searching for ways to engage their Muslim communities and protect their citizens from future attacks, some governments are increasing surveillance and restricting civil liberties, essentially forcing Muslims to assimilate to the traditional culture of their countries, rather than allowing them to organically integrate. The propinquity of these demographic realities with the “war on terror,” and the subsequent concerns about small, insular, and devout religious communities being sleeper cells within Europe, have left peaceful Muslim communities with a sense of isolation and often bewilderment.”

 

This is one of those paragraphs where you read it, shake your head, and read it again to see what it means, and then go back and SLOWLY read it a third time to try to figure out what it REALLY means.

 

Since there were few “anti-Muslim” laws back in ’05 I can only read this to mean “restricting civil liberties” is used instead of saying “making Muslims obey the laws relating to the human rights of family members, especially women and children.”

 

As nearly as my Accutron FanaticBabble 2.0 translator can tell, the last sentence in the paragraph means that the very real threat of sleeper cells in the Islamic communities of Europe makes those communities nervous. Given that their faith commands they not expose these (misguided but still Muslim) cells to authorities they regard as Satanic, it is not surprising that even the non-violent Muslims are “nervous.”

 

“.. They did so by limiting foreign influences and subsidizing mosques (and other religious communities) in an attempt to promote conformity with Spanish culture and limit Islamist rhetoric and extremist actions. Concerns about Saudi funding of the fundamentalist Wahabbi version of Islam are certainly justifiable, but Spanish efforts may only serve to interject the government into intra-religious discussions in which it does not belong.”

 

More stunning double-think from H. Knox. Mr. Thames admits that concerns about Saudi funded Wahabbi influence are “justifiable” but once again passes by that camel to strain at the gnat of government interference in “intra-religious” discussions. He ignores that Saudi Arabia is a massively oil rich country that is already interfering in that “discussion”. Mr. Thames certainly does not give an alternate solution to excessive Saudi influence.

The balance of his “report” is more of the same. Mr. Thames recognizes the threats that Islamists pose to European society but takes the view that a hybrid Eurabia culture will be the inevitable result. He completely ignores the actual history of Islamic groups in Europe, their aggression and disinclination to allow the non-Muslim majority to live THEIR lives in the manner they choose.

In the end I am afraid that the CMSA has produced exactly the sort of “event” that I expected. Mt Thames is a smooth speaker who shows that he is not ignorant of any facet of the situation… the problem is that he is wearing out colors but not playing on the Western team!

 

I urge every moderate and conservative employee of Congress to attend the meeting:

 

Friday, November 13, 2009
11:00AM to 12:00PM
2456 Rayburn H.O.B.
U.S. House of Representatives

 

Show up, listen, think, and question.

 

And please, write to me and let me know what is said. Audio, video or official transcripts would be fabulous!