Methinks The L.D.* Doth Protest Too Much!

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The panties of Haris Tarin, DC Office Director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council are in a twist over the heinous behavior of the Islamophobes running the United States’ counter-terrorism efforts. Let us look at this honorable American’s take on things, and then let us look at the facts.

Hang on Virginia, this one is pretty much a mind-f… um …you know what I mean.

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I have added some editing advice to help improve Haris’ grasp of the concept of communication as opposed to bovine end-products intended for garden uses.

Enough is Enough: The anti-Muslim Training Tide Must Turn

May 18, 2012

The nation’s top officer, Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, says to stop ‘Total War’ on Islam rhetoric

Last week, Wired.com’s Danger Room reported [that] a course repeatedly taught at the U.S. Joint Staff Forces College, [either remove the comma or add another one after the word course] included vitriolic [non-submissive] and hateful [objective] language about Islam [undisputedly mainstream Islamic theological doctrine] and Muslims [actual actions and words by Muslims and polls of Muslims]  as part of its instruction material. Sadly, this latest report shows history does indeed repeat itself, and the Muslim American community has suffered repeatedly because of it. [this makes us upset because it accurately portrays the very tactics we hope will deliver the Ummah a planet to beat into submission to our highly personal and totally human concept of God]

After that mildly spun tornado of an intro Tarin gets down to some really intense atmosphere fertilization; let’s just add a few interjections to make it a tad more ‘fair and balanced’.

In the last year alone, there have been at least five high profile instances [5 times we found great agit-prop opportunities] of anti-Muslim [that which does not contribute to the doctrinally pathological Islamic need for religious self-respect regardless of truth] training to law enforcement and military personnel sponsored and financed by the federal government.

This above tidbit alone should show that the Muslim Brotherhood style of stealth jihad really has produced a real influence that is detrimental to the security of the U.S.!

Be sure to follow the link in the article to the actual slideshow; there is almost nothing to criticize, and what little there is, is explicitly presented as being unrepresentative of any current or proposed policy and was included to incite wide-ranging discussion – just the sort of thing you want when training high-level military and law-enforcement’; these were hardly detectives and beat cops being trained, this was ‘War College’ level stuff.

Take note that the information reported so incredulously in the next paragraph is self-evidently true; this is demonstrated by the public and documented actions and writings of the very ‘civilians, juries, lawyers, media, academia and charities’ being “shielded” by the likes of our beloved “Hi, I am from MPAC & I am here to help you” representative.

First, there were reports last fall of the Department of Justice (DOJ) using training material that warn of Muslims in America engaging in “civilizational jihad”– a concept “stretching back from the dawn of Islam and waged today in the U.S. by ‘civilians, juries, lawyers, media, academia and charities’ who threaten our values.’”

I guess that I have to admit that if you are blinded by a religious doctrine that mandates your faith’s domination of the world by hook or by crook in order to ‘”save” the people from being ruled by the evil un-believers, it might be upsetting if your doctrine were openly discussed by the ‘Great Satan’. Every one of the items in scare quotes in that paragraph is supported by the repeated words and writings of groups like CAIR, MPAC, MSU and others of that ilk. Meanwhile any Muslims actually interested in reform are tarred and feathered one way or another to keep them silent and under the radar of the general public while their trained seals lead the media by the, um, hand.

In recent polls of American Muslims the overwhelming majority refused to acknowledge that the nationally known groups represented their interests. Even when all of the media-darling Muslim advocacy groups were lumped together the over-whelming majority declared that they did not represent the real American Muslims next-door and in the shopping check-out line ahead of you.

No National Muslim American Organization Represents a Large Percentage of the Community

Which national Muslim American organization, if any, do you feel most represents your interests?

ORGANIZATION

MEN

WOMEN

Council on American-Islamic Relations CAIR

12%

11%

Islamic Society of North America ISNA

4%

7%

Muslim Public Affairs Council MPAC

6%

1%

Muslim American Society

0%

2%

Imam Warith Deen Mohammed Group

3%

1%

Islamic Circle of North America

2%

0%

Other

6%

20%

None

55%

42%

Paragraph left out – I agree that Walid Shoebat is a bit of a nutcase.

As if that wasn’t enough, the New York Police Department (NYPD) decided it would be a good idea to screen for its officers “The Third Jihad,” a blatantly anti-Muslim [written honestly by an American Muslim] film that insists [shows conclusively] the “true agenda of much of Islam in America” is to infiltrate and dominate America.  According to reports, nearly 1,500 New York police officers were shown the film.

In referring to groups in the media much means almost all, when referring to real American Muslims see the poll above.

Here’s a toast to the NYPD! I have yet to see the full version but, the 30 minute cut is very honest and, by the way, it is all the project of a Muslim American!!!

In addition to the screening, NYPD’s widespread spying [legal and much lauded surveillance] on Muslims in New York and beyond also have come to light [been the topic of our hysterical misdirection]. We learned the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy financed a specific part of NYPD’s surveillance against Muslim American communities – from libraries, restaurants and markets to university student whitewater rafting trips – without any evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

Here MPAC’s trained poodle seems to be intentionally ignoring the fact that basic surveillance comes beforeevidence of criminal wrongdoing” in the real world; after that comes more invasive data gathering with the permission of a court, then they charge, convict and put the Psychopath-of-God away for good.

During the most recent upswing in “the Irish problem” no-one on either side ever saw anything wrong with the authorities keeping an eye on any group, religious or otherwise, that was Irish and Catholic or Irish and Protestant, or Irish and Marxist for that matter; being Muslim fails to shield you from being judged by your fruit.

When reports surfaced last week [our buddies dug up something juicy, to us at least] of the Pentagon using training materials (read the PDF presentation for yourself) …

Yes, please do, the MPAC characterization of the document is disingenuous to say the least! Just imagine what a Nazi agent in America would write about an objective assessment of Germany’s doctrines and intentions in 1938, then fast-forward about 70 years, and watch the show start all over again.

…advocating for a “Hiroshima solution” to target the Muslim “civilian population wherever necessary,” in a “total war” against Islam, that was the final straw.
At this point, the community has had enough.

At this point so have I, that last bunch of quotes was assembled by cherry picking single words and phrases out of context for no purpose other than to demonize the entire document; I say Virginia, that is just not cricket!

Letters were sent to those officials who have blatantly violated [sought to protect and defend all American’s] civil liberties and basic moral principles, meetings [3-minute-hate’s]on Capitol Hill took place and civil society groups [reliable dupes & bought fools] have spoken out against the corrosive [creative] mishandling [strategies] of national security efforts.  Policy circles [paid-for-apologists] stressed the importance of partnerships [divisiveness] rather than confrontation [responsible co-operation] between local communities [stealth jihadists] and law enforcement agencies, but the damage [truth] has been done [disseminated]. The bridges [[barricades]  of partnership [divisiveness] that took so long to build were being challenged with walls [a spotlight] of distrust [truth] that were erected overnight [with great effort against the currents promoted by the stealth jihadists and “’progressive’ Leftists].

I for one am glad to see the wall of stupid finally cracking.

Why are our tax dollars being used to train Americans to hate other Americans?

Now then Virginia, to continue our abnormal psychology lesson, please take note that few, if any, people of a non-criminal mind-set would think of typical police training to identify and apprehend criminals as ‘”training to hate Americans”. We also find examples here of projection, where the patient “projects” their own thoughts and actions onto the recipient of their tirade; see link to the Third Jihad.

Why are our political leaders not publicly denouncing the hate-filled training materials our law enforcement and military students are receiving?

Probably because all the hate material your allies spew forth takes time to vet and dispose of; meanwhile the hydra grows two more heads.

Simply put, this is wrong, and at this point in our nation’s history, we should be above putting down any group in the name of national security.

Um, really? What about groups proven to be conspiring against national security? I would wager that if some brain-dead Christian Identity group started making noises like they were ready to give Armageddon a jump-start MPAC and CAIR would scream for them to be “put down”!

Gen. Martin Dempsey, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, condemned the bigoted Pentagon training materials.

Hardly, what he did was act like the political general he is, and do all the media approved things; the only parts of the document that are questionable explicitly state that they are included as provocative discussion starters, not proposed US. policy.

While this is a positive first step, serious reforms need to be implemented into the education of the agency, and we need to hear from Secretary Leon Panetta that this type of problematic training will never happen again.

That will happen just as soon as CAIR and MPAC et. al. swear on their prophet’s honor that no more of their moderate leaders will end up convicted of terrorism related charges; deal?

While we are spending treasures in both lives and finances overseas trying to win hearts and minds, here at home we are training our young servicemen and women to fill their hearts and minds with hate.

That last sentence was one of the rare moments when a stealth-jihadist will speak the exact truth; the problem here is that the words “we” and “our” should be read as “Islam” and “Islamic”, instead of “Americans” and “America.”

Pursuing national security measures by training military and law enforcement officials to hate [objectively assess] their fellow Americans only weakens our national strength.

Again, who exactly is this “our” you are referring to?

Together we stand, divided we fall – these words have never been more appropriate.
It’s time for our political leaders to speak out publicly against anti-Muslim training taking place within their own federal agencies. Anything less than intervention and serious reform is unacceptable, given the stakes.

Well now, there again is something that we can agree upon – your political leaders must be wetting their drawers over the thought of the public becoming aware of their agenda!

(* lying dog)

Dearborn Michigan Arab Festival Enforces Sharia Law: Christians Be Silent or Be Mobbed

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Having lived in New Orleans a number of years and having spent a lot of time observing Jackson Square, where all the Tarot and Palm readers hang out, I have seen a great many Christian street preachers at work. Many of them are obnoxious and some are positively toxic and flout the law left and right because the “rightness” of their faith has convinced them that they can do no wrong in the service of their god.

On the other hand many are sincere, faith-feeling folk with a great inner love and compassion for their fellow man; whether I agreed with their message or not, such people were never offensive to me. But, other than the few who flouted the law, like the fellow with the megaphone from Radio Shack who already knew it was illegal but used it for over an hour until TOLD by the police not to use it, only then did he comply; and repeated this tactic with another shift of police later in the day! Then there was the man who stood on the steps of the Saint Louise Cathedral during service and preached (to the square, back to the church, I guess this made it ok in his mind) a hellfire and damnation rant that included just about everyone in the square, including the parishioners in the building behind him, as hell-bound sinners in need of his message for their soul’s sake.

The fun thing about freedom of speech though, others were free to answer back! It is not right to disrupt someone’s legal speech, but responding is certainly ok! I answered a few myself when they crossed the line. I went toe to toe with the megaphone man and with greater volume (thank you theater training) gave him hell for not having enough passion in Christ to preach the message with his own lungs, relying on devil spawned technology to shove his words into unwilling ears. Yes Virginia, I can have an attitude, but I always have fun! I have also stood BETWEEN an obnoxious but legal preacher and a bunch of immature Pagan types who wanted to mess with him in ways that were more obnoxious than what he had done himself… Hypocrisy is never fun to watch and the Square was my professional home and I defended it.

The thing is though, this was all verbal, in 8 years I never saw anyone who wasn’t obviously mentally disturbed or blind drunk every try, note I said try not succeed, in initiating violence or mob intimidation tactics. The video that follows shows something very different from anything I ever witnessed, regardless of the religion of the preacher or the crowd.

I would want to talk to a lawyer but, I do believe that the actions of the crowd, and its instigator/leaders, can be seen as an active, spontaneous, conspiracy to deny the preacher his civil rights! Recast the scene with a black man preaching to white townsfolk about joining his church in 1945 Alabama and it would appear a heinous violation of the preacher’s identity as a human being by a hateful, bigoted mob. The man even appears Arab, but, for daring to preach any “gospel” but theirs he is all but set upon and the mob is allowed to intimidate the man to leave a public space where he has been exercising his rights… If this video is not a bit Orwellian to you, then Virginia, you just have not been paying attention.

Act 17 Apologetics is, in my opinion a bit aggressive but, they come nowhere near crossing the line on first amendment rights to share religious “opinion” in the public square, as such they are to be defended in their rights as vehemently as any co-religionist of ALL Americans!

Frankly, the cops should have loudly told the crowd that the man had the right to preach all he wanted and that if they persisted in harrasing him to leave they would be arrested for conspiracy to violate his civil rights and any RICO/Mob related laws they could think of that might apply, now go back to your festival and have fun, or else!

Declare Your Allegiance – Heretics Crusade Gear in Time for Christmas

Congressional Muslim Staffers Hold “Moderate” Victimology Session on Capital Hill

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The Congressional Muslim Staffers Association(CMSA) is holding the next in their moderate Muslim Taqiyya session at the Rayburn Building in DC; from their twitter account…

"Muslims in America: Myths and Realities A discussion on faith Tuesday, August 31 10:00 – 11:30 AM Rayburn House Building – Room…"

And there the tweet ends… is this a tactic to confuse and delay critics who might attend? Or just poor twittering?

These “moderates” are popping up like flies!

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I need to be twins, or maybe triplets; I can’t keep up with all the false faced "Moderate Muslims" drowning out the real reformers in their religion!

Here is the latest in the "Taqiyya blog" of one Dr. David Liepert a "prominent North American Muslim"; I got interested in his writings from an appallingly weasel worded article on Huffington Post.

"Taqiyya, al Qaeda and  Islamophobia

DateMonday, August 16, 2010 at 04:30PM

Taqiyya, and the way it’s abused is an excellent example of the unholy (although it’s likely unintended) alliance between al Qaeda and radical Islamophobes."

Notice how a false black and white distinction is made here that isolates the supposed negative influence of Islam to less than one percent of Muslims and all non-Muslims who are critical of the ACTIONS of Muslims.

"Taqiyya is the Arabic word that denotes God’s promise that a Muslim won’t be judged a sinner if forced to renounce Islam under duress or torture, and makes explicit a wonderful promise: that God judges humankind lovingly and justly by our intent in the context of our capabilities."

Ah, but capabilities to to just what? To whom? Why? Those are questions that threaten the good Dr. as a Muslim and so will fall under the aegis of Taqiyya and never be answered honestly… by Western standards.

"Taqiyya to al Qaeda and the less than 0.1% of Muslims who follow their debased ideology is permission to lie."

No, it is not the straw man you have propped up in order to set a match to; it is permission to lie to "protect" or advance Islam, nothing more or less.

"Taqiyya to Islamophobes has become permission to call “liar” any Muslim who doesn’t support their hate filled agenda, and that’s the problem: because that means an Islamophobe can always throw out anything a Muslim says that they don’t agree with, or that they don’t want to hear."

Here again we see not only the stark My Way or the Hell Way attitude toward "thought crime" but also a continuation of the name calling, and propagandistic labeling. This is written from a RELIGIOUS PERSPECTIVE? I don’t think so, it reads more like political hot air that smells of masculine bovine digestive processes! To be stark myself it reads to me a lot like the German propaganda in the 30’s and Soviet propaganda in the 20’s, 30’s, 40’s,50’s, 60’s, oh why go on; Putin is still doing it!

"But does Taqiyya actually give Muslims the rights al Qaeda and Islamophobes claim?"

Regardless of actual lineage we can see that the good Dr. understand you must hammer away at the "big Lies" until they take hold; then keep hammering them until they acquire quasi-mystical acceptance among "right thinking" people. Pardon me Virginia while go take an ant-acid; my stomach is a bit nauseated.

"Many Sunni Muslims claim that it is solely a Shiite practice, and consider the question answered. However, that response is to some extent dishonest because the practice is rooted in the Quran, which is shared by both. Based on 16:106, it is obviously a promise that AlLah makes to all Muslims that He will be merciful.

However, 3:28 tells Muslims not to take those outside our faith as “protecting friends”, unless the action itself protects Muslims, and 40:28 introduces a believer who must “hide his faith” among non-believers.

There are also Hadithi which pertain: including one in which Muhammad (peace be upon him) declared, “War is Deceit” and another recounting the assassination of Ka’b bin al-Sharif in which Muhammad (pbuh) gave the assassin permission to use a ruse.

But when you actually examine the evidence, it becomes clear that there is no permission to lie given to Muslims, and that al Qaeda and Islamophobes who say otherwise are lying themselves."

Well, no; if you look at all the most "reliable" translations you find evidence that goes BOTH ways. Either interpretation seems to be valid from the extant texts used by Muslims.

"The Ayah that pertain to Taqiyya are profoundly restrictive regarding exactly where the deception lies, who is being deceived and why. In each case, it is only one’s Muslim faith that is hidden, and it is only hidden from those who would do a Muslim harm because of it in order to prevent it. It is never used to give a Muslim an unfair advantage in anything."

No, it isn’t. judge them by their fruits!

"An Islamophobic [Guy DeW: more insulting, black and white labeling piled on, don’t we call that chauvinism if a Jew or Christian does it?] website shows just how dishonest the author is willing to be. They translate 3:54 as saying, "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." and claim “The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit.  If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.”

Sorry Dr. (of what by the way?), that is not the case; translations by Muslims and non-Muslims are divided.

"However, Makara doesn’t mean deceit, it means “plot” or “scheme” in the context of a superior plan or undertaking, which only proves you can’t take the word of someone who dislikes Islam about Islam: which shouldn’t surprise anyone."

Now that you have seen that the Dr. is distorting the facts should it surprise you that he wants you to blindly take HIS word?

"Likewise, al Qaeda and radical Islamophobes both claim the Hadithi in question give blanket permission to Muslims to lie, but actually reading them does the opposite.

“War is deceit” is said to have been declaimed in the context of the assassination of Usayr ibn Zarim and his 30 men after they were given safe passage. But when one reads the story it becomes clear that Usayr and his men were the first to offend, and clear that the transmitter went to pains to make that clear."

In other words it is cool to cheat a cheater, and rob a robber, and murder a murderer? That is a small step to cheating someone you think has cheated you etc… and one more tiny step to cheating anyone who is not "on your side", sorry Doc, I can’t buy it!

"Likewise, after getting permission to use a ruse, the transmitter actually went to great pains to show that Muhammad bin Maslama went to great lengths to avoid actually saying anything false: his words are recorded exactly."

Tape or digital recording? You do know that any digital recording can be tampered with.. what did you say Virginia? The good Dottore did not mean that, he meant that HIS scripture is pure and accurate and untainted despite hundreds of years before their being written down and the many different versions that have existed? Ok, I guess I should not be surprised.  Oh, and it is all false anyway… go to the horses mouth!

"And Ka’b’s final words to his own wife indicate that he might even have had an inkling what was going on, but had been overcome by his own greed."

And of course THAT makes it all ok? Sorry again, no sale here, try further East.

"The bottom line? Muslims don’t have permission to lie, and anyone who says otherwise are bearing false witness and spreading lies about Islam.  And that’s against the rules of every religion, no matter which book you follow."

And so says someone who has absolutely NO ulterior motive for you to believe him… And I have some wonderful land in Florida to sell you…

True Sincerity and How to Fake It

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Sincerity, what is it and how do we identify it from bald-faced lies and zealous ignorance? In two ways Virginia, in two ways; analyze what they say and compare it to all available facts; and judge them by their fruits, one of the most useful concepts to come out of Judeo/Christianity.

It is never more important to identify real sincerity than when the speaker claims a religious moral high-ground. Most religious traditions cherish a core principal of truth and honesty; a self-serving lie perverts the most noble cause at its very core – *Living* this belief distinguishes the true clergy of God, no matter their faith.

Unfortunately the extremes of the religious/partisan/tribal spectrum believe the opposite; so sure are they of the holiness of their cause that eventually any lie will come to be seen as sanctifying, instead of perverting, when applied in any fashion that can be rationalized as in service to “The Cause.”

To be sure, this trait is not confined to religious bigots, there are political movements on the Left, and Right, who share this same “holy” zeal for their vision of “how things must be.”

Here is a piece from the Great Falls Tribune in Montana that straddles both the religious and the political art of faking complete sincerity.

Part of Islamic teachings is mutual respect and acceptance, according to Hussam Ayloush, a speaker at the Islam in America symposium in Bozeman in February and a Muslim-American from Anaheim, Calif.

Why would anyone hold a symposium on Islam in America in Bozeman, Montana (pop < 30,000)? Maybe so no-one undesired is likely to show up and attend to what is actually said?

With that said, “part of Islamic teachings is…”? That is about as vague as you can get. A part? A large part? A powerful part? How about a dominant part? We will let that one go for now…

“Some Muslims disagree with American policies, Ayloush said, but that doesn’t mean they hate Americans.”

Disingenuous, thy name is partisan! “Some” can be read as most according to virtually all polls I have seen, whether by US-based, Judeo/Christian religious, or Muslim news agencies!

As to the “hate American policies[sins]” bit, sorry, the Christians use that one too; what they hate is America’s Un-Muslimness, and that means hating non-Muslim Americans; just as a radical Christian who hates homosexuality hates the gays, not just “their sin.”

“There are lines by the thousands in Muslim countries for visas to come to America,” he said. “People are proud to visit here. There’s no shame — it’s the opposite.”

MSU Adjunct Professor Thomas Goltz has spent years traveling in Muslim countries. “I have never, not once, felt uncomfortable going around the Muslim world because they were Muslim,” he said.

This is probably because Goltz is known for uncritically pro-Muslim, and anti non-Muslim, statements and articles:

Goltz’ remarks were in response a question from the audience on how to convince Armenians of Nagorno-Karabagh to stay within the “current boundaries of Azerbaijan.” Goltz, who teaches at the Montana State University, replied: “By building a forward-looking democracy you will be able to let the garlic-growing Armenians beg to join you (Azerbaijan).”

… Goltz accused Armenians of perpetrating “ethnic cleansing” in Khojaly and said the Armenia argument that the Khojaly operation was a necessary pre-emptive and defensive measure to relieve Nagorno-Karabagh’s capital Stepanakerd from relentless shelling from Khojaly was “nonsense”.

The most dramatic moment of the lectures occurred when Aris Babikian from the Armenian National Committee of Canada (ANCC) successfully refuted two controversial statements by Goltz.

At the Newsmaker Breakfast lecture, Aris Babikian, executive director of the ANCC, confronted Goltz and mocked him for his “command performance of misrepresentation and revisionism.” Babikian exposed Goltz’ hypocrisy by pointing out that the American journalist had “conveniently forgotten to mention the Sumgait, Baku and Maragh massacres of Armenians by Azeris… and that had it not been for the Russian Navy 230,000 Armenian inhabitants of Baku would have not survived.”

Ayloush explained that al-Qaida is so unwanted in Muslim countries the terrorist organization must hide. “Eight out of 10 victims (of al-Qaida) are Muslim,” he said. “Every political leader has spoken out against (them).”

Of course, to be fair he would have mentioned that BEFORE most of their victims were Muslims support for al-Qaida in the Muslim world was much, much higher… but that has nothing to do with anything, right?

This next bit is so outrageous that I am going to take it piece by piece:

“Jihad” is a term used to describe “inner struggle” and striving for the sake of God, according to Ayloush. It is “not holy war,” Ayloush stresses.

The inner struggle means controlling one’s passions and avoiding vices.

Here Ayloush is being at best sloppy and rash, and at worst a completely disingenuous dispenser of bovine produced fertilizer.  Doesn’t he understand that to tell such easily refutable lies helps his cause in the uncommitted hearts NOT ONE BIT? Here is a piece that brings together some interesting quotes from the Quran:

“Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them):

thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom. (47:4)This one states the goal of the fighting in terms that also make clear that the war is religious:And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. (8:39)And this one establishes that he warfare is against the People of the Book, that is, Jews and Christians:

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (9:29)

Back to the article…

Arabic has no word for “holy war,” and the phrase was developed as a way to translate the word “crusade,” a Latin word and Christian idea.

Stunningly untrue: the Crusades began only after 300 years of ISLAMIC military aggression against Byzantium and the Holy Land (mostly Christian at the time), including the attacking and enslaving of pilgrims as a “religious right and duty.”  Only a mind that thinks that when Muslims murder it is sanctified by God can think that the Crusades taught MUSLIMS how to fight a holy war!

The Quran surfaced about 1,400 years ago, Kia said, and there are no verses about the United States because the country did not yet exist.

The United States has gone to war in Afghanistan and Iraq because of those countries’ policies, not religion. They just happen to have a majority Muslim population, according to Kia.

And? So? What does that have to do with anything?  The Koran, Hadith, and especially the Sharia’a, clearly deny the right of humans to create their own laws and institutions; this puts traditional Islam squarely AGAINST everything that Western societies, including America, are based on.

The Sept. 11 attacks were committed by a minority group of extremist Muslims affiliated with the terrorist organization al-Qaida, which has small networks all over the world.

And Muslims danced the world over, wherever they were more than a tiny percentage of the population! Can anyone tell me of any event involving the murder of over three thousand people that would bring out huge numbers of Christians, Jews, Hindus, Shinto, Buddhists or Neo-Pagans out to dance in joy? Such compassion! Such a peaceful outpouring of warmth and sympathy!

Christians have committed acts of terror both present-day and throughout history.

That is nice Professor, but we live NOW; tell us about the thousands murdered every day by Christians – shows us the yearly toll of thousands of Fellow Christians (but not Christian enough), and non-Christians who offend by merely BEING non-Christian. Show us where they live closer than your great-great-great-grand mother’s lifetime! You remind me of a Mafia Don excusing 30 murders committed in a year to consolidate his power because thuggish cops killed two people randomly over ten years.

In defense of a political movement that attitude is sad; in defense of a religion is it disgusting.

“The irony is that Christianity fought its holy war against Islam in the middle ages,” Kia said. “There was a Christian ‘holy war,’ there was a Christian ‘jihad.'”

You keep beating that horse, but it will never get up and run… how is it ironic that only after 300 years of murder, raid and military assault culminating in closure of access (at peril of life and freedom) to pilgrims the Christians FINALLY took up arms, and came and kicked some butt to take that formerly CHRISTIAN land back? Jihad is only bad if it is Christians? (note that I have not addressed, and certainly not defended, any excesses of the Christians involved; we are just addressing motives for now)

There are terrorist organizations throughout the world. A full list of designated groups can be viewed at http://www.state.gov/s/ct/list/, and a list by country at http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm.

I am not going to spend a huge amount of time breaking down the numbers of dead by the religion of the murderers; go here and look for yourself at how utterly stupid this argument is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2009

The country with the largest Muslim population is Indonesia.

And also the country with one of the fastest growing Islamist problems!!!

And that concludes our lesson in how to be truly sincere at *appearing* to be Morally Superior to your opponent.

Less than 20 percent of the 1.6 billion Muslims (according to a Pew study in 2009) in the world are Arab, Ayloush said. “It’s a religion,” he said. “Not an ethnicity.”

And let us not forget it; I don’t expect to hear Ayloush calling anti-Islamist groups racists!

Eboo Patel; Spinning So Fast Must Make Him Dizzy!

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Today on Huffington Post we find our old friend Eboo Patel explaining once again how the anti-democratic, pro-violence, anti-women stance of every school of Islamic Jurisprudence has to be the result of Western Islamaphobia.

Eboo likes to pretend he is a soft-shelled moderate, aching for love and acceptance,and then proceeds to diminish and excuse, or simply ignore, every reality associated with Islam today while blaming all the worlds ills on the Evil West.  Come Virginian, lets us examine his latest display of his mastery of the Islamic concept of Kitman.

Eboo is very skilled at wrapping unrelated concepts into a lump and smearing them with a foul smell, all the while maintaining a saintly glow on his pained authorial face.

“In public, Islam always appears in flames. Sometimes it’s on fire in the movies, sometimes it’s on fire in the newspapers. The most recent example, of course, is on the cartoon South Park, where the Prophet Muhammad was depicted wearing a bear suit.”

Here Eboo trumpets the stands Islam as Victim line while ignoring the glaring DATA regarding acts by Muslims, Riots, killings, bloody repression of women and child abuse that makes Hebert Hebert look like a Sunday School teacher! THESE are the things that keep Islam appearing “in flames” not The Big M in a bear suit!

This is especially true in regard to South Park, What religious figure has that show NOT mocked without bearing the threat of violence? Just one, the mysteriously insecure “perfect example” to mankind!  A sure sign that it is the LEADERS that are “offended” and not the “ummah” is that both South Park and other comedy shows have mocked Mohamed and Islam before, and gotten away with it, simply because the LEADERS did not call for riots… it is beyond reason to believe that the masses did not see these other depictions.

Next, the slight of hand artist pulls a terrorist rabbit out of the free speech hat.

“That gave a platform to a website called "Revolution Muslim" to direct a threat against the South Park writers. Which gave a platform for a couple of scary-looking guys with beards to go on TV and talk about how Muslims are required to terrorize people (how kind the media is to radical Muslims: so much free air time, and they don’t have to pay a PR company). Which gave the industry of Islamophobia a platform to say, "See, didn’t we tell you their religion makes them violent?" Which made Americans scared of Muslims, again.”

So, we can have our little civilization, if only we refrain from offending Muslims?  Otherwise the (self) Righteously-Angered-Ummah ™ will give us something  (spontaneously of course!) to REALLY be afraid of?  And it is OUR FAULT if that happens because we will have insisted on actually IDENTIFYING the reasons you are attacking us?  Do you EAT with that mouth?

Eboo, Eboo, most of those “scary-looking guys with beards” you are speaking of are the MAINSTREAM SCHOLARS of Islam! You are insulting virtually ALL of the traditional, and current, interpretations held dear by the MAINSTREAM schools of thought in Sunni, Shi’a AND Sufi Islam!  Name ONE school, other than the hunted-and-killed-by-the-mainstream Amadayia that does NOT support violence in response to things like the South Park incident! Just ONE!

“It’s a too-familiar story, so familiar, in fact, that it just about writes itself.”

Too true, Eboo Patel shows us how easy it is to follow the formula and excuse the criminal and demonize the victim.

“And that’s the problem, actually. The arsonists want you to associate Islam with flames — that’s why they light it on fire whenever they send it out to the public. They are masters at manipulating media, from newspapers to videos to cartoons.”

You see Virginia, if a Muslim beats or kills a Jew or homosexual or kills his “erring” daughter because ALL OF HIS Imams TOLD him he should do things like that, it is YOUR FAULT if you DARE to think that maybe the Imams and their religion had ANYTHING to do with the corpses piled at your feet.

“But there are other Muslims who are mastering media and who are telling different stories. Meet Dr. Naif al-Mutawa, founder of the Muslim cartoon series The 99. He is an Arab educated in America, a psychologist who went to business school, a Muslim aghast at how Islam is viewed as violent and hateful by Muslims and non-Muslims alike, a father of five boys, and one of the most impressive cultural entrepreneurs of our times.

Naif had just been accepted to Columbia Business School when 9/11 happened. There was the horror of the terror that had hit the land that had educated him. There was the double horror of the hijacking of his religion. And there was the triple horror that there was no alternative message about Islam even a fraction as powerful as the ugliness that Al Qaeda was offering.”

I went and read all the posts on Dr Mutawa’s site and have to say that if there are truly moderate Muslims out there HE is one of them.  Other than a not surprising inability to see the facts on the ground relating to Israel’s birth, everything he says is so modern and moderate that I am surprised al-Jazeera has not denounced him as a Zionist plant!

(brief interlude; Jeopardy theme)

Well, it seems that 99 is banned in Saudi Arabia and, according to students at Kuwait University’s Shari’a School when visited by PBS’s Frontline to investigate the Muslim world’s reaction to the wildly popular comic, the biggest threat to Islam.

“…we visited the Sharia — or Islamic law — school on the other side of the campus. Not surprisingly, these students were far less inclined to share their opinions about The 99 with us. But one …said he believed he spoke for all Muslims when he said that The 99 was wrong and misguided. Yusef felt that The 99 was part of a post-9/11 response in some parts of the Islamic world to make Islam more palatable to 21st-century sensibilities. He said that efforts to give women more religious authority and the new interpretations of the Koran are reforms that are diluting the message of the prophet Mohammed. “This is the greatest threat to Islam today,” he said.”

The fact is that Naif is…a tad naive.  The real mutawa have no patience for his kind, Westernized Muslims who really DO want to reform Islam.  Unfortunately the actual religious leadership do NOT see things his way.

I also wonder just what Mr Mutawa thinks of much of what Mr. PATEL writes?  Naif strikes me from his writing as truly uninterested in getting drawn into the fanatics debate while enjoying the feeling that he is doing something to promote Islam… I have not yet read any of the actual comics, so I do not know if this trend continues or if Mr Patel’s brand of Taqqiya and Kitman win out.  But, from what I have read in his web site, if someone can enlighten him as the actual history of Israel, he is one of the good guys. Mr Patel on the other hand I still do not see as anything but a white-washer and apologist.

My fear is that the Wahabis will win out and intimidate Mutawa into giving them writing control. I certainly believe that Patel and other like him are waving Mutawa with one hand and CAIR’s hate mongering with the other. But Naif better watch his back.

Stay Tuned…